He is already in next week's dock. Oh, Big Montana. You're darn right start of the week. I was saying before he got the, uh, before Big Montana got the last second touchdown, it was still a nice follow-up game from Will Disley, five for, five for 58 before the touchdown, seven targets. But, you know, and they just don't have reliable pass catching options. They have guys that can come out and be, you know, Jerome Brown gets you two catches or Metcalf a couple and, you know, David Moore, two catches. But.
Week 3 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, Maniel Jones
Week 3 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, Maniel Jones
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143 passagesRed zone-wise, you know, Lockett's a little guy. Lockett scores from far away. Will Disley. He scores up close. That Will Disley touchdown at the end of the game where the game was over multiple times, but then penalties just kept drawing out the game. And I believe they got a free snap with zero seconds on the clock. Yes. Yes.
That was the most disgusting garbage time fantasy touchdown I've ever seen in my life. What were the garbage man? Thank you. Yeah. What was Seattle doing? There really isn't a point there. You know, like, you do not accomplish anything. I've always, you know, other than the potential for injury. That's, that's where I leave. It's so weird. Like, you should really take a knee.
Am I wrong? No, you're not wrong. I am totally on board with you. I'm like, you're not playing mad at where it's, oh, I'm going to score on you no matter what. I'm going to cut down the lead. No, you still lost. You still lost by a good amount of points. Well, like in fantasy, at least like total points scored earns you something, right? Like maybe it's a tiebreaker or something of that. You don't get anything for that. It's, we feel better about ourselves. The defense that had.
They were done. But laying down feels weird, too. I mean, I'm a competitive person. It feels super weird to not go out and try to execute the offense and do what you're supposed to do. But because it's the NFL and injuries can happen, it seems risky business. Yeah. So, hey, we've got another spectacular performance. Oh, yes, go, go, go, go, go. This is, Darren, 13 for 13 for 13, on 14 targets.
He's caught 89% of the passes thrown his way this season. Well, okay. They're five yards from the line of scrimmage. It's like you should catch them. PPR machine. Through the first three weeks of the season, he is one reception. He's got 26 receptions through the first three weeks. That is one reception short of the best for any tight end over the last 50 years. I mean, he is.
He's just, he's half of this offense. His target shares in the 30s, the 40 percentile. That's ridiculous. He is the potpourri on the poop experience that is that offense. I mean, he is. And it's delightful. Oh, on every week's start. Yes. The real question will be now that Mark Andrews had a down week, how people with both of those guys decide who to start moving forward, Waller is just so safe. Yes. But has he scored this season?
I don't recall. I don't think he's scored, but who cares? Austin Hooper had a nice week. Evan Engram went down the sideline the way Juju did, 6 for 113. He's the number one tied in on the year. Evan Ingram. He's had two monster weeks and a somewhat down week last week, which was still fine for tight ends. Right. Everything seemed to line up for him to succeed last week. But, yeah, I mean, Evan Ingram is. No Sequin helps him.
Those little outs being the release valve that isn't, you know, you don't have Sequan anymore for that. I think Ingram stays in that spot for a little while. So, all right, you guys want to talk about the bad stuff. Stinkers of the week, presented by odor eaters. All right, we already talked about Baker, but can you drop Baker? Yes. I think I would move on. Last week he was more of a trade baker. Now it's a drop baker.
Yeah, I mean, I think you... Baltimore? No, thank you. Yeah. Yeah, the quarterbacks are streamable off of waivers. I don't think you need to be holding on to Baker when this offensive line is as bad as it's been with an upcoming schedule that doesn't look great. Basically, if he doesn't throw a slant that Beckham scores on last week, he has two of the worst fantasy weeks in a row. He was one of the most fearful, you know, in our ultimate draft kit, he was a bust.
That did not feel good for us. It was so scary because it's like, you know, he could, he could come and light the world on fire with O'Dell Beckham, but I think he's a great quarterback. Yeah, I mean, I do too. A really bad position right now. Yeah, it's a little bit of, I mean, he's, he's definitely, it's, it's everybody. It's his offensive line. It's Freddie Kitchens. It's his execution because Baker made plentiful mistakes yesterday. Bad decisions, constantly bringing the ball back down, you know, being gun shy.
I wanted to call him Baker May throw because he never, he didn't decide to throw the ball at all. And when they were down at the goal line, there was a play when they stacked the three wide receivers up. And O'Dow Beckham was just break into the corner wide open in the end zone. And he just never even looked his way. Yeah, my fantasy team appreciated that. Aaron Rogers, is this what we have with Aaron Rogers now? Is it just a middling? I guess, man. Low end wide receiver one or a quarterback one. Once again.
Well, I don't even know if he's a quarterback one at this point. It was the same thing as last week where the game started. The Packers and Rogers, it looked like, okay, here we go. Rogers is going to have a big fantasy day finally started, like I said, with that 40-yard touchdown to Mark Wes. And then the offense just falls apart. Well, and that was a broken play. I mean, that was a play worth an offside. So it wasn't even like they drew up a deep ball there. He just said, oh, okay, I got a free play. I'm going to chuck it. Outside of that, ooh.
Yeah, I mean, Aaron Rogers currently on pace for 3,500 yards. That's in today's NFL, 4,000 is like... How many yards? 3,500? Yeah, he's on pace for 3,451. And 3,600 grimaces after the games. Yep. He just doesn't look happy. I mean, his yards, 203, 209, 235.
Which in the past was fine because he had four or five touchdowns in those games. And he's not doing it anymore. And it's hurting Devante Adams significantly. All right. I think this is the section right here. The running back stinkers that have the most question mark. Because you draft running backs. They're rare. You know, it's harder to find running backs that are reliable. And several of these guys are in the category of players that, you know, people thought would have reliable production at the position. Todd Gurley. Holy crap.
14 for 43, no catches. Holy crap. Why aren't they using him in the screen game? I mean, he's out there on the field. It's not like they're protecting him and not giving him the ball. They gave him 14 carries. But he has dominated in the screen game for years. And this season, they're just like, yeah, let's get rid of that. Maybe that'll help his knee or something. I mean, it makes no sense. But he actually just doesn't look as good. The offensive line certainly isn't opening things up like it did in years past.
Maybe that's more of the problem. It's just those big plays for Gurley were the lynch pins of his production. And the line is not, I mean, you brought it up. The line is not looking the same. Well, big plays and Cooper Cup is healthy and goal line opportunities, which, man, it's, it does not feel good to have Todd Gurley because are you going to trade Todd Gurley away for peanuts? No. I'm not. Would you trade Todd Gurley away for this next guy? Chris.
Carson. Chris Carson, 15 for 53, had yet another fumble in this game, which changed the entire picture of the game because they were in a position where he had just broken off a 26-yard run. They were down a score. They were driving to tie the game instead of get scooped, scored on, and they're playing from behind the duration. He lost the game for the Seahawks. I believe that. The defense did allow.
points. He has cost them in a meaningful, tangible way for a couple of weeks. So C.J. Procise was out there, the remainder of the game pretty much. Chris Carson came out to not get a fourth down conversion. You know, this is something that Carson is a my guy for me. Everything was set up for Chris Carson this week. Rashopinney was out. You know, Carson had the opportunity. He fumbles again. He's lost three fumbles this year.
And so I went and, you know, I'm watching the postgame press conference and listening to Pete Carroll. And, you know, you try to read between the lines. Obviously, Carol basically said, look, he needed some time to, some space. He said something to that extent. That's why he gave him the bench. He needs to kind of work through that mentally. He needed a time out. Now, he did come out and defend him. And he said, he's had three of the best punchouts that he's ever seen. That's what Pete Carroll said in terms of the fumbles that he's lost.
And he said, he even pointed out that he was covering up in preparation for that. But the punchout was perfect. So he's calling him weak. Yeah. And then so Russell Wilson came out and said he's one of the best running backs in football. We have full confidence. And Pete Carroll came out and said, hey, we have confidence in him to be back out there and get it fixed. Has Arizona next week? Could that be the salve for Chris Carson? It could 100% be the salve. But if Rashad Penny is ready to go,
next week. And Rashad Penny is the starting running back once they have their first offensive snap. That won't be a shock. What I'm confident in is that no one on the Arizona Cardinals can punch out the ball. So I don't worry about the fumble next week. And to answer your earlier question, would you trade Todd Gurley for Chris Carson? I would. I would rather have Chris Carson than Todd Gurley.
Yeah, it's actually strange to look at this game and say Carson got 15 carries in it. It felt like he had negative one carry. That's how the game felt. James Connor, 13 for 43, 4 for 14. Is it time to panic on James Connor? Yeah, look, you have to panic. And James, I love James Connor like Jason was talking about. I'm all in, or was all in on James Connor, but the hope was Mason Rudolph can just be,
competent and he was very incompetent. I know that was just one start for Mason Rudolph, but if his quarterback is going to be that bad and the offense is missing Big Bend that much, then James Connor, he will see volume, but it's going to be very ineffective. Well, I mean, what's the recipe? You know, the recipe to beat the Steelers in previous years was, you know, can we contain Juju and Antonio Brown? Right.
Now the recipe is let's make Mason Rudolph beat us through the air because he can't. He was throwing the ball behind receivers. He was, you know, he had a couple of good plays. But Juju really made that big play. And then he did have a nice pass to, what was it, Deontay Johnson? Yes. That's a name for the Waverwire show tomorrow that we need to mention. But.
We can put Connor in the panic room for Wednesday. Certainly. Josh Jacobs, 10 for 44, no catches. This was a stinker. But against Minnesota coming off the injury, Mike, you set it all week. This was very expected for me. If I had a horizontal option, like a lateral move I could make for Josh Jacobs, I wanted him on my bench. There'll be better days ahead for Josh Jacobs. We didn't mention him in the stud muffins, but Ronald Jones was 14 for 80, one for 40 through the air.
had a good game. Peyton Barber in this one, 13 for 48, outperformed by Ronald Jones. What do you do with these guys? I mean, I ask the same question every week. I don't want any of them. I just, I mean, if you have to have one, I guess Ronald Jones at least has the hope, but I just don't want him. The last week it was, well, I guess Peyton Barber has the volume. I think that this split is just going to continue to be this. I don't believe that anyone.
will establish the fact that last week out of the blue it was all patent barber this week it started out where it was all ronald jones i don't want to play the guessing game i agreed so um for those reasons i'm out shark tank all right devante adams four for 56 on four targets he's a panic room contender as well because you know week one against chicago he was the 67th wide receiver
Okay, it's Chicago. Okay, they're figuring it out. Let's not, let's forgive him. Week two against Minnesota at home, he was number 19. Yeah, it's great. Seven for one. Did you say great? He was seven for one of six yards and seven receptions against Minnesota. That's, you're happy with that. I mean, you want a touchdown. Sure. But I mean, for the guy that was drafted to be the number one overall by some people, 67, 19. And then in this game, four for 56, you haven't gotten anything that's in that.
wide receiver one category. So I'm kind of asking, are you changing your expectations for Devante Adams because this offense, it's a brand new offense. They're using him differently. They're using other players differently. They're choosing not to be, you know, they're not an efficient offense right now. So yes, I will say, I'm concerned about the usage of Devante Adams because why he was so safe was that he was an absolute target machine, but, but to speak to your point of.
