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Taysom uses Trautman to melt Mike into a puddle
Mike equates his Taysom Hill hatred with Andy's Breece Hall love, only for Taysom to throw a touchdown to Mike's old favorite Adam Trautman. Mike celebrates before learning who threw it, says he melted into a puddle of flesh, and faces don't-talk-to-me hands from listeners who escaped Kyle Pitts for Taysom. Direct video only shows the desk retelling; no puddle or hand gag appears.
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Monday Punday mutates the Week 5 board
The recurring reaction segment turns the week into Jared Barf, Boss Allen, Taysom Mountain, Beast Hall, Breece Hallelujah, Conk Conk Goose, Dalton Sharts, Cryler Allgeier, Christian Jerk, and Babe Davis. The viewer sees the hosts reading the stack, not a dedicated pun graphic.
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Al's forward cap makes him the offscreen nerd
Looking toward Deucers Alley, the hosts say two crew members have backward caps while Al wears his cap forward and is buttoned up, making him the nerd despite usually starting the cool-guy trend. They then ask whether his Packers will recover. Al answers from off camera; the video never shows the described outfit and transitions to the News & Notes bumper.
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The Dump Truck makes two trips
Fournette's eleven-target game fills the recurring Dump Truck twice: one load for each half, with a trip to dump and return for more. The hosts say Mike never misses the 'dumps like a truck' cue on a catch. No truck, cargo, or route graphic appears.
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Michael Carter must give Breece Hall the touchdown dance
After Breece Hall twice reaches the one and leaves for a breather, Mike rules that substitute scorer Michael Carter cannot celebrate. Carter should carry the ball back to Breece and say, 'Dance, buddy. This is for you.' The proposal is entirely spoken and is not shown as game footage or reenacted at the desk.
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Mike is a principled toddler against Taysom's eligibility
Mike accepts that Hill's four touchdowns make more usage likely but still refuses to play him as a man of honor and principles. He admits raging like a toddler and feeling personally attacked, then argues it is disingenuous to list Hill at tight end when the production comes from quarterback snaps. The close concedes Taysom was a good decision that principle rejected. No tantrum or position disguise is shown.
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Betz wins DFS and is fired for asking a raise
A successful DFS dart throw leads the hosts to imagine Matthew Betz asked for a pay raise. They immediately announce he has been let go, open his job to anyone equally good who will not ask for a dollar, congratulate his past work, and say he went out on top. Betz is not shown and no real personnel action or firing graphic is documented.
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Andy and Kyle climb the nightly Kyle Pitts Kool-Aid hill
Andy says he and Kyle climb a hill every evening, pour Kool-Aid, toast Kyle Pitts, and talk about how great Pitts will be if he gets a chance. Andy predicts Pitts could be the best tight end of the 2026 season. Direct video stays on the hosts; Kyle, the hill, drink, toast, and future graphic are all dialogue-only.
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Breakfast butter turns bald, hairy, and midnight
Hockenson's season is compared to cold butter stuck in one spot on bread rather than spread across weeks. Calling it breakfast butter becomes a confusion between a ball and bald butter, which leads to objections about hairy butter and the classification 'midnight butter.' Kyle is said to be dying in Deucers Alley. The viewer sees only the laughing hosts and no butter or Kyle cutaway.
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Andy, Jason, and Mike are named and visibly present for the full episode; no host is missing and no Jay Griz appears. Taysom Hill's 38-point game turns Mike's old Adam Trautman attachment into a trap: Mike celebrates Trautman's touchdown before realizing Taysom threw it, then says he melted into a puddle of flesh. Direct video shows Mike gesturing and smiling at the desk, not literally melting. The FootClan members who pivoted from Kyle Pitts to Taysom reportedly gave Mike the don't-talk-to-me hand and auto-won, while Mike's own Taysom pickup did not save his week. Monday Punday follows with Jared Barf, Boss Allen, Taysom Mountain, Beast Hall, Breece Hallelujah, Conk Conk Goose, Dalton Sharts, Cryler Allgeier, Christian Jerk, and Babe Davis. The video stays on the three hosts and supplies no dedicated Monday Punday card. The hosts then look toward Deucers Alley and roast Al's reported forward cap and buttoned-up look against two backward caps, calling him the nerd and asking about his Packers. Al's brief replies are off camera; the viewer never sees the described outfit or any crew seat, and the sequence cuts into the standard visible News & Notes bumper. Leonard Fournette's Dump Truck returns after eleven targets: the hosts say it filled up, made two trips to the dump, and triggers Mike's drop every catch, but no truck graphic or physical bit appears. After Breece Hall twice does the hard work only for Michael Carter to score from the one, Mike proposes a celebration rule: Carter must carry the ball back to Breece and tell him to dance. That handoff is imagined, not game or studio footage. Taysom's four-touchdown day later sends Mike back to his principles. He admits raging like a toddler, feeling personally attacked, and refusing to play Taysom because nearly all of the listed tight end's production came while taking quarterback snaps. The hosts nevertheless acknowledge using him would have been a good decision. None of the tantrum, quarterback disguise, or soul damage is visually performed. Matthew Betz's successful DFS dart throw prompts a mock corporate cutaway in dialogue: after supposedly asking for a raise, he is immediately 'let go' for getting greedy while going out on top. Video never cuts to Betz and shows no termination graphic. Kyle answers an off-camera question about the Bills-Chiefs kickoff, then becomes part of Andy's nightly Kyle Pitts ritual: Andy says he and Kyle climb a hill, pour the Kool-Aid, toast Pitts, and believe he might be the best tight end of the 2026 season. No hill, drink, Kyle inset, or prophecy card appears. The closing T.J. Hockenson analogy piles cold breakfast butter in one spot on bread, then a misunderstanding of 'ball' as 'bald' creates bald butter, hairy butter, and midnight butter; Kyle is reported dying in Deucers Alley, but video remains on the amused hosts and shows neither Kyle nor butter. Routine fantasy analysis is omitted.
incredible plays that Brees got all the way down to the one and didn't score. And on both of those plays, they brought in Michael Carter who got a one yard touchdown. So I'm not unhappy with 200 yards and a touchdown, but man, that could have been. I've, and they, they blew out. the Dolphins who were down to a third stream running back. I think you would have more targets for Breece is what I'm saying. I'm not taking anything away. I think he actually would have a lot more targets in a game where they're having to come back. I would like to institute a rule here because I like the, the Breece Hall was just a real highlight of this where a player makes an incredible play goes forever. It gets down to the one. They're winded. They need a break. I get it. Michael Carter comes in and gets a touchdown. You're not allowed to celebrate.
You're for Michael Carter, and you get pulled in from the one because the superstars in front of you did all the work, and then you just kind of get into the end zone of one yard. You're not allowed, you can't celebrate. You're saying Michael Carter can't celebrate? I'm saying Michael Carter cannot celebrate. He's not responsible for this. Oh, he should run that ball to Brees. He should take that ball and run it over and give it to Brees and then be like, dance, buddy. Thank you. This is for you. I agree, Mike. I blame the cardio. Oh. I mean, Brees needs to figure this out. If one of us ran that play that Brees Hall did, we wouldn't just need a break. We would be done. That would be the end of the game for us. We did have Austin Echler on the show and we asked him specifically. Like those plays, are you upset? You know, when you have a big play and it goes down there and then they bring someone in to square your touchdown. He said he's like, no, we need that break. Yes. And so that's why coaches, if you're listening, call a timeout.
Burn it. Oh, we did have one of those. Burn it and just wait and then put your guy back in. Yeah, you had like a quarter break and that put the guy back in on the field when he wasn't going to be there. Those are always nice. But Bruce Hall, I said it last week. That was going to be your last chance. I mean, that was going to be your last chance to get him because the manager of Reese Hall drafted him for a reason and was waiting for this day to happen. And then it happened. So. You're not getting him on the cheap. Derek Henry, the big game. Nick Chub. Nicholas. 17 for 134 and 2. Nobody's a bigger threat for a 35 yard touchdown than Nick Chub. I mean, you put him in that zone. That's like the goal line for Nick Chub. Yeah. There's the cream hunt zone, which is inside the five. And then everything back in those 95 yards. That's the Nick Chub zone. Dalvin Cook, two touchdowns, 18 for 94. A gift of a touchdown from Justin Jefferson.
Alvin Camara, welcome back. Six targets. You love to see it, 91 receiving yards, and then 23 for 103 on the ground. And most people are like, Taysam Hill stole everything from it. Yes, he did. And those people are correct. So just remember, all the Tastom Hill touchdowns that we're all happy about. Those are not Alvin Comerick. Well, let me ask you a question, Mike. It's a simple question, kind of like an AB. All right. Is it A, more likely, or B, less likely, that Taysam Hill continues to do that when he succeeds and scores four times. And every time he touches the ball, it's great for the team. And wins the game single-handedly. Yeah, more likely. I did. I'd, look, I still won't play Taysam Hill because I'm a man of honor in principles. But during the breakdown with when you had, when you knew it wasn't going to be James, I think you're more likely to see Tysm Hill in close. So that will, that will be.
an interesting thing for the team to decide. Once your starting quarterback is actually there and you're inside the five, do you go Wildcat with Tayson Hill? Not just James, but I mean, if they're missing Chris Olavet and Jarvis Landry and Michael Thomas and they have a, you know, an absence of weapons, you will have Tayson Hill more involved in more packages. Do you think that there will be a point this season that Tayson Hills... tight-end eligibility comes into question on platforms. I did, I mean, during my, you know, raging like a toddler yesterday because of how unfair all of the Taysam Hill stuff was going on. Raging like a toddler. I mean, yeah. I feel personally attacked by him. But, yeah, the, I totally forget what we were talking about. I know what you were going to say. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Of, like, everything that Taysam Hill was doing, he was.
snapping the ball. I know he still went out and lined up as a tight end, but every time that he's doing something, he's the quarterback. So it's, I don't know how you change the eligibility because people will freak out. It'll be this whole big thing. But like, just like it feels disingenuous to mark him as a tight end when all of his offensive production comes from him being a quarterback. It's very difficult because he obviously lines up all over the place. Right. And he had a monster block freeing Camara on one of these plays where he came across the formation. But he hasn't even seen a target. No, I know. He shouldn't really let him rush the passer because I'm pretty sure he would dominate it that. Yeah, you're probably right. He just, he does a good job of reading with that wildcat of just finding the blocker and turning it on. Just an athlete. Just figuring it out. Tavin Coleman was back.
Tevin Coleman. He scored twice and I feel, Mike, I feel intense pain with this because. Thank you. Because I played like seven showdown lineups last Thursday. And I put Tevin Coleman as a captain on three of them. You did it before it was cool. And no, he didn't even get a snap on that game he was activated. It comes into this one. And it's not like Jeff Wilson was lacking. It was just a, you know, 11 touches for Tevin Coleman. Jeff Wilson was great. Both of these guys looked so fast, which is... This is their best offensive performance, I think. Yeah, I mean, Carolina's got a good rush defense, but they didn't yesterday. I don't think Kevin Coleman is prescriptive, not someone you can use in normal fantasy lineups. We could talk about whether you should pick him up or not as kind of the backup right now, which he clearly has that role. But Jeff Wilson looked just super good, healthy. He's back. All right. We have a few more to talk about, but a quick break first.
I didn't want to gloss over a few more names here at the running back position because I think they're pretty important and prescriptive. McCaffrey got it done, scored again, 12 targets. That's the important number. Manal Baker might not play. You have a different head coach, but McCaffrey is always in your lineup. Yes. Damien Pierce looked great again, 26 for 99 and a touchdown. Did you see that run down to the three? where he broke about, it was the most Marshawn run you've ever seen. He broke tackle after tackle and stayed upright. No, he's, he is looking great. The running back eight. He's getting all the work and he's involved even in the passing game, five targets. If he can get five targets a week, he can't be on your bench. Yeah, and they won the ball game. He can definitely be on your bench this week, though. Bye week? By week. Okay.
Yeah, not going to put up big numbers. Kyle, this stat, Damian Pierce, 17 missed tackles forced on runs versus the Jaguars. That's the most that pro football focus has ever charted in a single game. No, it was all in one run, Mike. I mean, that one run was 17 different broke. It was unbelievable. They never charted the beast quake. I mean, he's not a huge player, right? And I've been on record saying that, you know, Travis E. Tina is shrinking. Right. Pierce is not huge, but man, does he have a center of gravity. It's incredible. He's a really, really good player. Rahim Mostert, 18 for 1, 13, and 1. He missed another touchdown. He missed another touchdown by a millimeter. 95% of snaps. This is an every down player at the ripe young age of 30 at the running back position. Obviously, this game was, if you weren't intimately aware, this game became very weird for.
The Dolphins because you had a banged up Tyreek and a banged up Waddle. And then Teddy Bridgewater goes down to the concussion immediately. And in comes. Skyler. Undrafted rookie. This guy didn't go. He wasn't a seventh round pick. He's a rookie. And he gets to play an NFL game. So, you know, I don't know how much that affected just keeping Rahim there and saying we're going to run the ball now. But he looked great. He looks. just as fast as he always has, and the trends even before this game were he's taking over. So until an injury happens, I think Rahim Moster is just a weekly start. I've got an idea for fantasy players. People will be done with Chase Edmonds, but the draft capital was semi-high. If you have Rahim Mostert and you don't have Chase Edmonds, I recommend...
targeting that person that wants to drop him anyways, seeing if you can get him on the super cheap. Because what Jason said at the end is absolutely right. An injury would change it. And you're not going to play Chase unless that injury happens, but you would have the backfield on lockdown. Like basically, if you have Rahim Moster at 90% of snaps or you have no Moster, then Chase gets everything. You're in like win-win situation, not a committee situation. Yeah, or if Chase just gets dropped, then... Target him if you're the Mostert manager. Which one's Jamie Lee Curtis? That was Mostert. Mostert? From the freaky Friday discussion. Oh, that's what it was, yeah. That's right. Yeah, and he did this work with only three targets in this game with the quarterback change. Romandre had the third most rushing yards ever under Bill Belichick with 161 against Detroit. Pretty good matchups coming up as well. And then Saquan, who, I mean, Saquan is just.
Really, really good at playing running back. He's fantastic. Scared the crap out of everybody. Got dropped on his shoulder. It was clearly hobbled. He left. Locker room. Went to the locker room. Happy juice. And then he came back and it was like nothing was wrong. Yes, Gabe Davis, three for 171 and two touchdowns. It is rare that a player leads the league in receiving yards. with three receptions. That's impressive. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not really holding it against Gabe Davis to only have six targets here. They didn't need them in the second half. Diggs 11 targets, 8 for 102. Both of these guys play Kansas City next week. Oh, yes. Let's go. That game's going to be so much fun. Is that a, Kyle, is that a, what time is that game? It's just an afternoon game. Boring. What? Flex that thing to.
Well, we probably got to get another Broncos primetime game. Well, I was going to say it might as well be an island game because they don't play anybody in the afternoon anymore. Yeah, what happened to that? Three games yesterday. Tyler Lockett and D.K. Metcalfe were monsters again. They get Arizona next week. Oh, oh. Diamy Brown? Well, that'll be an interesting discussion. Tyler Lockett. On the, yeah, this was you say. D.K. Metcalf will be with Byron Murphy and Les Murphy, that injury keeps them out, in which case, both players. Dami Brown had two touchdowns. They were both from, I mean, two receptions, two touchdowns. He came in with no Jahan Dotson. And McLaren didn't come in and make the splash he wanted. It was Diamy Brown. Yeah, the Tennessee Titans defense, we, we, you know, I was big on Terry McLaren this week because of what the Tennessee Titans defense has been giving up in big plays. Sound process. Then it was Diamy Brown. Thankfully, if you're a part of the DFS pass.
Another week in a row where the DFS dirt throw was a big hit. Can I, can we cut in here for a second? Let's do it. I think Matthew Betts asked for a pay raise because of this performance in the DFS. We have let him go. Wow. You don't ever ask me for a dollar. That's right. So if you are also great at DFS, we have an opening. Wow. You got to be as good as him. But also nice job, Betts. Oh, you did great. work for us in the past. This isn't a Matt Rule firing. This is like you went out on top. Right. But peace out. You got greedy. Justin Jefferson was a Monster Cooper Cup. Always great. Although that offense in Los Angeles has troubles. The offensive line, that is. Jacoby Myers, eight targets, seven for one, 11 and one on the return. And that was with Bailey Zappie. Zapp, Zapp, Zapp. Zapp, Zapp. You got zapped.
Yeah, if you were listening to Sunday Live, Mike was encouraging people to pick up Jacobi Myers, stash him. He's been really, really good. Jacobi Myers has been great. Yeah. For a long time. But this is like, he's always just been a wide receiver 3 in PPR that you know is going to be really safe with the targets. But he just now, he's been, he's been great this year. Occasionally scoring helps players. And he had gone so long without scoring. Hey, here's a my guy that worked out. Mike Williams, 10 for 134, a dominating performance on 13 targets. 10 targets per game since week two without Keenan. And that's nice to see. That's all. Yeah. Hollywood Brown. Gabe Davis was my guy. We got, we got some hits. Speaking for myself. Oh, okay. Speaking for myself. Alan Robinson was also my guy. Yeah. He's not being mentioned in this segment. Well, there's another segment. Yeah. There's another more. Oh, no.
Hey, look, it didn't work for McVeigh and it didn't worry for me. Hollywood Brown, though. Hollywood Brown is a top five wide receiver, 10 targets, 8 for 78, scored another touchdown on a great play. He has been over the 10 target mark for four consecutive weeks. Since Kyler said it. And when you said he's a top five wide receiver. You're not sharing an opinion of you think he's, you're saying he's the wide receiver, five in fantasy. Like he is actually for fantasy football, a top five wide receiver right now. He's been great. Yeah, and he makes great play. I mean, he made, he would have had a monster day. He had his first kind of drop of the year on a slant pass that was a well-designed play. And he probably, he might have housed that thing. But a lot of people want to know what, what are you going to do with Hollywood once DeAndre Hopkins comes back? Because he's got one more game. And then Hopkins is back.
My opinion is that he's still going to be at a pretty good target number, probably six to nine a week with a higher potential for big plays. Hopkins will resort to the route bush on the left side. I just don't know where Hollywood's going to line up. That is the question mark for me because... That left side, they like to plant DeAndre Hopkins there, and that's where he's been running every week. Yeah, I think he's going to completely take the AJ Green role, and AJ Green will be on the sidelines for the majority of the games once Hopkins comes back. So that's my expectation. They did once... You don't think some slot snaps for Hollywood? Sure. They'll involve him there a little bit as well, kind of in how Greg Dorch has been involved. What they want to do, though, is they want Hollywood and Hopkins on the outside and have Ron Dale in the slot. That's like they're...
I think that is what they hope at full strength that they're going to be able to do. They want to be able to continue to throw to Rondale way behind the line of scrimmage and lose yards. Amari Cooper, 12 targets, 7 for 76 and a touchdown. He has been a difficult start because I think he's ping ponging between being the Amari Cooper of old and disappointing you. I mean, he's had three big weeks, not small but big, yeah. And then two. disappearing acts, but I guess you just keep playing it. Yeah, he's just, it's adjusting the expectations of he's not your wide receiver one, but he gives you those numbers, you know, more than 50% of the time. Tasum Hill, four touchdowns. Okay, we've already talked about it. Nine for one, 12, and three on the ground. We're moving on. Jason made the point. You could probably start him while we're waiting for Winston and these wide receivers to come back. He's always going to be touchdown dependent. The thing that you didn't realize was that he could score four of them in one game.
My gamble on him was the rib injury had kept them out of practice all week. And then it's like, okay, if he scores a touchdown, a touchdown, you're happy. If he doesn't score, he's probably like five for 20 on the ground. Little did we know, nine for one, 12, and three with a passing touchdown was in the cards. Mark Andrews, great game. Hayden Hurst. The Haydenhurst story is a scary one because it feels a little bit like Tyler Conklin. it could go bad if you play Hayden Hurst. But the problem is, is that Joe Burroughs throwing the ball close to the line of scrimmage, despite the fact that he doesn't have to. I mean, his protection was pretty good and he still did it. It was interesting. It seemed like the coach was trying to lean into revenge here for Hayden Hurst to go put up some points on his old team.
because he had the touchdown, and then they went to him again when they were, I think, inside the 10. They tried to get Hearst another touchdown. So I think that was more a, they didn't have T. Higgins for the game, and let's get our guy some points against his old team. Dallas got it, eight for 95. Great game. They used him in this, like, kind of underneath screen game all the time. And he's always open, and he always will be. Sure. Because when you have two. outside wide receivers like that, and you can run at quarterback. The linebackers have to stay home a little bit, and it just opens up outrout after outrout for Dallas Goddard. David Njoku, 6 for 88, seems very reliable right now. Yes, he does. And then Evan Ingram, hey, how's it going? Six for 69 for Evan Ingram after a couple of dudd performances.
setting you up for another one. Yeah, I mean, it's probably true, but there will be. I mean, there are people that lost a tight end like Pat Fryermuth, and then there are others on by this coming week, Hawkinson. So there's going to be, you're going to need to decide between Hayden Hurst and Evan Ingraham on the waivers this week. Yeah, and I, we do recommend psychological care if you are one of the people that like signed Tyler Conklin, and then you're going to now do the reactionary move to Ingram. And then you're going to, the Conklin will be all right when he's on the waiver wire. And you know, we know where this is going. Oh, yeah. And it's a scary place. Ready to talk some duds? Yep. Poopped in his big boy pants. At quarterback, really the Jared Gough story is the only one worth discussing. A lot of people kind of maybe took the chance on putting him in there. Gough had been so good and got so shut out. It was so good. Amman Ra was active in this game.
Didn't really play much, got targeted when he was on the field, but it was more of a Amon Ross clearly not ready to play. Had superstar T.J. Hawkinson off of his hot week. We'll talk about him in a second. Oh, okay. Will we? Oh, yeah, the, uh, that was a shutout. Yeah. Running back duds. This guy's becoming a regular. Oh, this is. Naji Harris. This is an important running back to talk about six. quarters with a new quarterback four total targets. He is a volume back. Naji is someone that is making fantasy points based upon maximum utilization and involvement in the receiving game. Currently, he is not being involved in the receiving game any more than your average leading running back for your team. And that's not what made him special. So there should be some.
some alarms going off in your head. He is, through five weeks, he's on pace for 234 rushes for 754 rushing yards. That's 3.2 a carry, 44 receptions for 217 yards. He's currently the running back 29. Yeah. Coming up. It's not getting better. His schedule here coming up. Oh, no. It's a little bit brutal because we go from Buffalo to Tampa Bay. Miami. That's fine. On the road. But then it's right into Philadelphia and then a buy week. Then New Orleans on the way out. And the Bengals. And then the Bengals. Goodness gracious. We didn't want to make him a bust. No. We had to. Yeah. Aaron Jones. A.J. Dylan. Speaking of how are we feeling on these Green Bay running backs? Not great. A lot better about Aaron Jones than AJ Dylan. Sure. I mean, currently the running back 31.
nine points here for Aaron Jones on the week. You have, I mean, you have two games where you're pleased with the outcome for Aaron Jones. Yeah, that's the Aaron Jones experience, though. Yeah, it really is. I mean, he's kind of a back and forth explosive player that'll have his monster games and then he'll disappoint you. But at least he has explosive place. Right. And his utilization was there. I'm not too worried next week. You get the New York Jets. You'd expect both these guys to have a bounce back. Uh, I don't know if you play AJ Dillon right now. Yeah. I don't see the logic in it. You haven't had any, he hasn't scored since week one. He hasn't had double digits since week one. It just feels a little scary, but maybe against the Jets. He's a good play. He's a good play. He's a good play. He's a lot in play. No, you're right. You're right. Ezekiel Elliott, 22 for 78. It's part of the plan, everybody. It's part of the plan. What's the plan again?
That we just ride it out, make sure that he's still getting the volume. The whole career or just another week? 22 carries. That's the important thing. The zero targets, that part really sucks. But the 22 carries in a game where Pollard had a huge explosive run, a big time touchdown. Zeke still getting the volume gets the Eagles next week. That's not great. That's not great, but it's part of the plan. And then, and then you unleash him against the Detroit Lions and the Chicago Bears. So if you want the TLDR of that conversation, Pollard, big game against the Lions and Bears coming up. Very possible. Cam Acres might be toast. Oh, yes. 13 for 33. Darrell Henderson had zero carry, so it wasn't like they pivoted to a better option here. Came in on third downs, caught a few passes. That team, that offense. If you're not Cooper Cup, maybe Tyler Higby. No, Higby's still fine, but it's not, like. You're not starting Stafford.
What sucks for Tyler Higby is, you're like, I'm not going to get a touchdown. It's, he's so, he's dominating in targets, receptions, yards, but you're not going to get a touchdown. He's Zach Kurtz. He's a poor man, Zachertz right now. It's just, he's going to be catching a lot of short targets and falling down, but that's pretty good for tight end. That is the player I would trade away, by the way. Oh, yeah, Zach Kurtz. Oh, Zach Kurtz. Yeah, he's expiring. Yeah, he's expiring. And Rondell Moore, they actually. passed into the ball beyond the line of scrimmage, which, by the way, his first eight touches of the year, one total yard because they were all behind the line of scrimmage. They did throw them the ball in the middle of the field, Hollywood Hopkins, and then Rondale going to make Zackerts expiring. Jamal Williams, bad game, James Robinson, this was the biggest disappointment maybe at the running back position, 10 for 27. J.K. Dobbins, discussions to be had here as well.
There might not be a ceiling for J.K. Dobbins. Gus Edwards will be back at some point. Kenyon Drake was being used in this game. The snap counts since his debut 43, 50, 40. What's the temperature here? I mean, like I'm not excited about Dobbins. Yeah, no, the ceiling here for Dobbins is touchdowns. He's been good at scoring touchdowns in his short career. But obviously if he doesn't get those, he's not a pass catching back. So, you know, he's not game script proof. And this is a team that hasn't been running the ball well without, you know, great running backs there. So, you know, we didn't expect a great game against Cincinnati. Very difficult line to run against. The Giants are next week. And, you know, we need to start changing our expectations about the Giants team. And the defense looks legit. I mean, we just, right, Aaron Jones.
And A.J. Dillon, they were in the busts this week. So it's probably another poor matchup. So I think Dobbins looks like a player that is just in that consideration of probably your flex option. And you're judging him on a matchup every week about who else you have on your roster. Tyler, Alger, Caleb Huntley, where Fab goes to die this week against Tampa Bay. It's not, you know, you're still gambling. If you're starting a running back. I think the biggest thing to look at is 13 to 8 on the carry count. Neither got any targets, but you are using both players. So that makes it harder to feel confident about Algeria against San Francisco or Cincinnati the next two weeks. Targeting your running backs is, it's not high T for Arthur Smith. That's not part of the plan. Yeah. Even though it begins with the letter T, it's still not high T. Right. It's lowercase T. He calls them passes.
So it doesn't start. He calls him forward passes. You need them to be high P. Right. Whoa. I, what? Uh, James Robinson 10 for 27. We talked about it. It was concerning. Yep. Uh, I'm sure Al was disappointed. A lot of people were disappointed. But Al especially. Very much so. And do you have, like, that's now two weeks in a row of like where the big play didn't happen. Eight for 29 against the Philadelphia Eagles. Okay, Eagles, explain it away. But 10 for 27 against the Houston Texans, how do you explain that one away? Would have been nice if you scored on the goal line. Yeah, it's very difficult to explain that one away. You've got a player who came back from the Achilles and had a couple big runs. Maybe he just needs those, but he's not a long-speed type of player usually.
The breakway runs were surprising. I mean, right now you're probably just going to keep starting him until he proves that he has lost something. Maybe just a bad week. We'll see. I have to read you the stateline for Chase Edmonds. One for one. Yes, 100%. Two targets for zero. And if you didn't, at the top, we talked about Moster's takeover, 95% of snaps after 70% last week, 53 the week before. It's just. I mean, Chase Edmunds played fewer snaps than Miles Gaskin, who I didn't remember was still in the roster. Yeah, the game, I mean, the game was a blowout towards the end, so they did pivot kind of back away. Yeah. But that hurts, though, right? Oh, it hurts big time. It does. It doesn't feel good. Devin Singletary, bad game, didn't eat him. Six for 42. Look good on the ground. He did. He had some nice runs, but didn't matter. He always does. He always does. You give the man enough work. Mostert or Singletary moving forward. Mostert.