Fantasy Football - Ice & Fire Show + We're Baaaaaaack! - Podcast for 8/3

He's running very well when it's straight. It's awesome that Tucker Craft is in the practice consideration right now after the injury. Chris Brazel, season ending IR. Yeah. That's a bummer. Kyle Munungai returned to practice after missing three practices. It was a soft tissue issue. Xavier Worthy avoided a serious shoulder injury. He had been carted off. And rookie wide receiver who was making waves, Cyrus Allen.

He was carted off, but it's a shin bruise, and he had been making plays. What a wild Twitter roller coaster that was. If you were on the football Twitters, Cyrus Allen was almost offensive player of the year in 2026. He was pretty much the most important player in all of football projected for a day or two. Then it was carted off. His career is over, and it was a shimbrose. So, TBD. Man, the, the Chiefs.

every year the chiefs always have a guy where you're like holy crap this really late drafted player is about to come into the NFL and set it on fire i mean i'll say this that like rashi rice running down field looked awful his knee is not ready i and i know you said maybe he's warming up that's not a warm-up run

That was a full-on run. Are you sure? Yeah, I'm positive. It was a full, I agree. It was a full run. It was what he's at right now. I will say this. We are still months away from the season, and you would expect him coming off of this injury to not be at 100% right now, but he was clearly not at 100%. And the reason that the chiefs have somebody every off-season is because it's been a long time since Tyreak Hill existed. And we are trying to find somebody to believe in each and every off-season, whether it's Jalen Royals for an off-season. Skymore.

I mean, we know that Mahomes could supply somebody with a lot of fantasy value. And I still think. But the odds of it being Cyrus Allen, they're not high. No, and it's. Cyrus Allen is just a great name to know for dynasty leagues. I assume by this point in time he's been picked up in all dynasty leagues, but there's some out there that maybe he's sitting on the waivers and you should scoop him up immediately. And to the Rashi Rice point, it's just that he is recovering from an actual injury. Absolutely. There was a ton of offseason.

you know, off the field issues and in jail time and things of that nature. But you also want to know that this player is back at full strength and going to be a focal point of the offense. He's a really tough player because I don't think Rashi Rai's, and we've said this before, I think you guys agree, in a different offense in a different environment, he's not.

the fantasy player that he is in Kansas City. They use them around the goal line on touch passes and into rounds and screens and short area targets and he scores a lot of touchdowns and he's a go-to guy in this offense. There are question marks around his effectiveness because of injury, because of Kelsey's effectiveness, who I think draws interior coverage. If he's not as good, does Rice get as much work or have as much success? Probably because of Patrick Mahomes. But they're still...

This is a limited player. This is not a player that's running 25-yard digs. And, I mean, maybe that's in his repertoire, but we haven't seen it. He's been a closer to the line of scrimmage catch-and-run guy. And the running part is the part I'm worried about. The funniest part of the funniest thing I saw said about that was, well, he doesn't get passes that far down the field anyways. So what are you worried about? With the run? Yeah, no, I mean. He's like, that's not his eight-off over there. It isn't. It isn't. So.

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But we each have picked an ice and fire player to talk about for the upcoming season. I'm going to come clean right at the top of this segment. Okay. Today's going to be a hard day for me. Okay. Because I know the names that are coming up. You don't necessarily love them. I'm not in agreement with a couple of them, and it's going to be really tough for me. Well, that's great. I mean, we shouldn't always be in agreement, but it gives us a chance to sway you.

You're who we're talking to. Let me put it this way. I am all ears. I would like to know where my brain is diverging from your brain. And I'm excited to hear it. We're going to start off with, I mean, it's a perfect segue. We just talked about this team. I want to talk about Travis Kelsey. Travis Kelsey is. You want to talk about screenshots.

The, uh, if you're talking about the Rishi Rice route, the, uh, the, uh, the Travis Kelsey photo. It's not flattering. You know, I don't know. That's the problem. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know anymore. Now I feel like. And angles of everything and the, the shirt may or jersey may have just bloused out. Yeah, him and Debo got. I hope they got A-I'd. Debo's always. Debo's, yeah, Debo's been thick boy forever. I mean, we had, we had thick boy Debo in Washington and he still had. Never forget.

Fat Keenan Allen season too. Oh yeah, he dominated. Well, let's you say this. It's a really tough thing in the AI world because you know what people are doing? It's funny if you're like, hey, let's make Victor Women Yama 30 feet tall. I could tell that's AI. Right. But now they're doing this thing where it's like make the legs a little bit longer. Just a little bit. So it looks just a little bit weird. Give them eight.

pounds. Yeah, what are we doing? That should be what's banned in AI. I don't care about all the rest. Just don't let people do subtle changes to appearance. Just learn how to do a joke. Right. Yeah, we did do that with one of our employees, though. Oh, we changed. We changed his hairline just a little bit. We got to tell this story. This is great. That's the, that's the.

The joke for that one. Yeah. So we know how to tell jokes. We play a bunch of games in the office. People are champions of that game and take unreasonable amounts of pride in winning these stupid little games. He had won. He printed a poster of himself. A large poster. We're talking 24 by 36 framed poster. Someone should grab it. Above his desk. No, leave it. And then he went on vacation. And he's a young man. He's the youngest man in this office. He's a very handsome man. Handsome, strong.

V-Rile, you know, whatever a young person is. And doesn't have the best hair line. The hairline, though, is going. That's his issue. We all have our issues. Yeah, it's his Achilles heel and quite a heel. Yeah. It was worse than mine. We took the photo down. We scanned the photo. We moved his hairline back. We reprinted the photo and we hung it up above his desk. To see how long until he would notice that his hairline is worse, right above his head.

The problem, one of the problems was his name is Jake Pitner. And we changed his name to Jorke Didler. Yeah. And that really let him know that the poster was wrong and that's where we went off. But Mike is just so ashamed that I shared that part. But the hairline, we subtly moved it and he noticed. So listen, Travis Kelsey and the AI dad bod or not. I mean, look, you're going to get one when you're entering the near 40 age range. He's 36.8 years old.

We're going to talk about Travis Kelsey, but he is my ice. Okay, don't ruin my thing. All right. That sounds like you like ice. Travis Kelsey, I know Mike, you've talked more positively about him as kind of like maybe he's a great floor tight end. Yes. I'm very concerned on a number of levels. It's not surprising. I have him the lowest of the three of us by a lot. Mike's got him at nine, Jason at 11. I got him at 17.

You know, I feel like part of the argument is the obvious stuff. Everything's going down in terms of the production, the snap percentage, the target share, the targets per outrun, the receptions, the red zone targets. I mean, it is gone down significantly. I think the red zone targets is one to bring up specifically where like 26 down to 11. That's a big difference. So then you're like, is he just less valuable? Do they use them less? Is he losing a step? Well, the chiefs were like,

When they targeted the tight-in position, Travis Kelsey, 20th and yards per attempt, 22nd in pass accessory, 30-second in percentage of inaccurate targets. He's not where he used to be. That's the point. If you are 32nd in inaccurate target numbers. The man's about to be 37. Which I will forgive. Holy crap. How is he that old? I will forgive it if he's not playing football.

You can be 37. Yeah, you just can't do it on a field and have success. And 41% of his routes at this point now are the old guy routes, the short stuff. You don't get the big plays that you used to get from Kelsey. His fantasy points per game are in decline, 15, 11, 9, 9.1. I agree that there's a world where Travis Kelsey is fine as a floor play tight end.

But do you want, I mean, Jason, you've talked so much about the tight-in position. Yeah. If you're not going for a big top five, I think it's a top five. You know, Bowers, McBride, Loveland, Warren, Fanon. Oh, you put Fanon in? Okay. I put Fanon in. That's fine. You don't have to. Four and a half, whatever. You don't want to put last year's top five tight-end Travis Kelsey in there? Well, I mean, it is a product of availability, not performance. It is. He has been out there. I just think it might be worth taking a shot at

a high upside athletic tight-in like Isaiah likely in New York. Britain Strange and the offense that we're going to love in Jacksonville. I mean, they could be a Super Bowl contender. I just find it to be, like, there's a world where you draft Kelsey high enough to where you lock him in as your tight end, and he performs bad enough for you to be really not able to make the moves you need to make. That's where I think I disagree is where he's being drafted is not high. I mean, he's double-digit rounds. We've done mocks where he's undrafted.