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Week 12 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Tub of Mashed Potatoes

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19 for 26, 258 and 4 revenge game against Mr. Hugh Jackson. But he went out and we're going to talk about him later. Let's put it that way. He's been balling out. Yes, it was an incredible game. And then Andrew Luck is just great. Three touchdowns. If you need three passing touchdowns, you call Andrew Luck. The tight ends, they're just, they're real big, friendly targets in the end zone.

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Eric Ebron. Thank you, Eric Ebron. Once again, the tight-in number one again. What do we do? See number one? Number one this week. Yeah, because, of course, and I played him last week. I had kiddle on by, I played him last week, got goose. Made him start of the week. You ate a goose sandwich. Number one. I don't, I can't recall a tight-in. Generally, you know what he was. He was number one, then a zero, and then a number one? I don't know if he was number one two weeks ago. I'll look that up. Was that the three touchdown week?

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Yeah, he probably was one one zero point. One is just binary. I don't recall a tight end or any player where the ceiling is like on any given week Eric Ebron could be the number one guy at the position or he could be never touch the ball. He could never touch the ball. That's bananas. He is he is breaking fantasy and breaking my heart.

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I love it. Without counting this week. So you include the goose of last week. He was number three on the year. He's got 12 touchdowns now. So yeah, ridiculous. But we're talking about quarterback. So let's talk about Russell Wilson. I want to get your guy's opinion on Russell Wilson this week. Again, he is outperforming the expectation the last few weeks. If you look at where...

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You know, consensus experts are ranking Russell Wilson week to week. He is outperforming that, making big plays win the game's on the line. This week, 339 and 2, it's all with his arm. He's not rushing the football at all. San Francisco next week. San Francisco, two of the next three weeks. Yeah, and Minnesota at home in between, Russell Wilson, is he going to be a key cog in some championship runs?

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Or do you, are you still hesitant? I, it's fair to say that because of the next month of matchups, San Francisco, Minnesota is at least at home and one of the news pieces, Xavier Rhodes Superstar Corner for Minnesota. He's banged up. We have to wait and see what's going on with him. But then San Francisco and then Kansas City at home. Championship week. I mean, so yeah, Russell Wilson certainly could be a key piece.

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It's tough because you know that Brian Schottnheimer, if it were up to him, he would hand the ball off on every play. Yes, he would. If it was his choice, but they haven't had that choice. Philip Rivers was okay. 28 for 29, 25 and 3. Started the game with 25. Completion? 25 for 25. Broke the NFL record, scored one more point than Josh Allen because Josh Allen ran the ball. How dare you? He tied the record.

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He did. I thought he broke it. No, he tied it. He tied Ryan Tannenhill's record. I was confused. Don't you dare disrespect Ryan Tannenhill on this show. He broke the record to start a game. Yes. That's what it was. That was what I was going to start a game. But he tied the number. Here's one of my life rules. The record is the 25 straight. It's not like I started the game with 25. If someone ever comes out and ties a record.

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That was set by Ryan Tannehill. You get the record. They're like, oh, we get to erase this. We just, really dark marker right over Ryan Tannenhill. And let's be honest. That wasn't Ryan Tannahill. That was Jarvis Lantry. That was Jarvis Lantry. Asterisk's Jarvis Landry. You guys, we all, we all body Ryan Tenthal right there. Running back studs. Christian McCaffrey did it again.

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2,000 yards of total offense in this game. No, he was 17 for 125 on the ground, 11 for 1, 12 through the air, but they lost their third straight game. And there's some similarities to me between the Carolina, what Carolina is doing and what Minnesota's done this year, where the defense is just, it just hasn't been able to win games on its own if things don't go right on offense. But Christian McCaffrey is a fantasy beast. Yes.

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You know, do you want, in a dynasty league, let's put it in context. Who do you want ahead of CMC in a dynasty at the running back position, the way he's played this year? I mean, he is. Todd Gurley, Sequin Barclay, Zika, Ezekiel Elliott, then Christian McAfee? You'd still take Zeke over Christian McAfee? I would, yeah. Okay. Yeah, he might be like. Kareem Hunt or Christian McCaffrey in a dynasty? I'd probably go Christian McCaffrey. But, I mean, they're in the same conversation. Yeah, that's, that's.

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They're very, very close. I bet they would be back to back. Yeah, the pass catching just makes me feel like the shelf life in a dynasty league of Christian McCaffrey is very, very long. Nick Chubb. Yeah. 28 for 84. I love you, Nick Chubb. But, you know, catching a couple passes every week now, caught a touchdown pass. Caught a terrible. I mean, the touchdown pass, if you haven't seen it, he jumps up, the ball was.

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throw him behind the defender and he wraps his hands around. Does one of those like, I caught it on the other side of you things. Baker put it where only Nick Chub could have caught it. That is true. I mean, it was a 2% probability that he could catch that pass, but only Nick Chubb could catch it. Kenyon Drake. He was great. 8 for 32 in a touchdown, 5 for 64 through there in a touchdown. Sure. Only gets 13 touches. You know, there are certain players this year that when you watch them.

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Like, I've been, I'll openly admit I was wrong about a couple guys. Like, Kenyon Drake is legitimately a good player. He's a really good. Like, he's somebody that I didn't believe in. Now, a lot of it had to do with platoon situation, but it also had to do with the fact I didn't think he was a great player. I think he is a good player. Yeah. I also think, I mean, Marlon Mack is the other one that, you know, kind of looks a little better than I thought he was going to look on the year. The talent of Drake, a.

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I guess it was never in a question for me, but Mr. Bhole just doesn't use. I mean, look, 13 total touches for Kenyon Drake when he's having an absolute monster game. I think my official stance now when people ask, should I start Kenyon Drake? My answer is just going to be sure, because it's so hard to recommend a running back that's going to only touch the ball 13 times, but he just keeps exploding.

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Yeah, I mean, if you want the big games from Drake, you have to be able to play him every week. Yeah, you got to play him every week. And hopefully he's, you know, that flex type guy that you put in there. And, you know, when he busts, he's still going to end up with four or five points, which stinks. But when he explodes, he could have 30 plus fantasy points. Yeah, because the level, what, two weeks ago, 27 rushing yards, 11 receiving yards. Three weeks ago, nine rushing yards.

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He is still dealing. Yeah, I was going to bring that up. He left the game. It's worth knowing he was redshirted this past week in practice because of the shoulder injury. Left this game because he re-aggravated the shoulder injury. He did come back in, though. He did come back in. But the point is he's dealing with something that is clearly lingering. I'm sure he's going to be redshirted this week, non-contact. And so if next week it's early in the game and he goes out,

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that might swing the pendulum to where you go. Maybe you don't start him if you've got another good option. Let's talk about Ligarup Blunt on Thursday with no competition from CarryOn. He had 19 for 88. That's actually a good game. No, the problem is it was, it was a good game. And we needed Lageret Blunt to just fail. So when Carillon Johnson came back from his injury, it was okay.

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You're our man, Kerry. But now Blunt does this. Are you looking Blunt's way then? No. On the waiver show tomorrow. You're not 18 for 88. I don't think Carrie-on's back next week. I think that. You're not looking, you're not glancing the big boys way? I mean, look, if you're desperate, maybe, if you're in a deep league, maybe. I believe he's on our waivers in our dynasty league that has like 30. That's probably a problem. As Andy's like, hmm, let me go over to a dynasty league. He's not. He's owned.

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Is he? Yeah. Okay, well, then he was picked up this last week. Yeah, by, okay, I thought it was Brooks, but no, somebody else. Anyways, my issue, so he's got the Los Angeles Rams coming. That's, you know, good defensive line, and Carion's going to come back. So I would rather look elsewhere. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I mean, they played what? Chicago? Yep. Yeah. Sony Michelle?

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21 for 133 and 1 finally looked healthy after the buy. I have said this. I continue to say it. I don't think I have agreement on this set, so I want these guys to talk about it. Sure. I have zero concern about Rex Burkhead coming back when it comes to Sony Michelle. I don't know how you guys feel. I think Michelle is just, he's doing what they need at the position, what they drafted him in the first round to do.

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I don't expect he's not making his hay in the passing game. He's doing it on the ground. I don't see any real risk to Sony Michelle with Rex Burkhead coming back. Do you guys feel the same? What do you feel like? People have asked this question all over Twitter. They want to know your take on Rex Burkhan. I'll agree that I don't see. I don't think he has a bunch of risk with Rex Burkhead coming back. But he will lose the potential for his ceiling.

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if he loses goal line work. But outside of that, honestly, I think I would be more worried for James White than I would be for Sony Michelle. If you look at, you know, what James White did when Rex was in at the beginning of the year, it just wasn't enough to be fantasy relevant except for full PPR leagues. It would be, like, okay, but you're still disappointed. But no, I think Sony is...

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Sony has carved that roll out, and it's his. And I don't think when Rex Burkhead comes back, if he comes back for sure. Yeah, he's eligible next week. I think that Sony's safe, but we've just, we've seen strange things happen with the Patriots, the running back core. I do believe Sony will get far more work than Rex Burkhead, but I agree with Jason that there is.

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You at least have to consider the possibility that Rex Burke had will take goal line work away. Melvin Gordon, before the injury 10 for 60. And then Austin Echler came in, ended up a top 10 running back on the week. Here's the question for fantasy owners. I saw a lot of this, Echler versus Josh Adams, if you got to pick one up. If you're the Gordon owner, does it matter? Or are you just trying to find the best option, regardless of whether it's your handcuff?

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Would you rather have Josh Adams or Austin Echler? And is Echler RB1 rest of the season? What is he? That's versus Josh Adams is a very interesting case because we actually saw the changing of the guard for Josh Adams. He didn't make it into the super studs, but he was 22 carries, 84 yards with a touchdown. He played on 62% of the snaps. I mean, that's a monster amount.

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for a Philadelphia running back. An absolute monster amount for any running back, really. So if that can continue, and it was, we got the reports coming into the game that they, Philadelphia said they were going to make Josh Adams the featured running back. We've heard teams say things like that, but they actually did it. So comparing Austin Echler to Josh Adams, I think is extremely difficult, especially if you're saying you are the Melvin Gordon owner. I, if.

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I had Gordon. I think I would prefer to have Echler because I know that his role is safe. If I was in a standard league, no PPR at all, I would lean Adams. Otherwise, I think I would go Echler. Yeah, that's the way I would go. Because it's pretty stark difference between, you know, I think carries are going to be in Adam's favor for sure.

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Yes, they will be because Josh Jackson will come in to get some of the carries. Echler is not going to be a 30. Yes, sorry, Justin Jackson will come in. Echler's not going to be a 30-carry type of or 30-touch type of running back. He's just not built for that. But I don't love Josh Adams' upcoming schedule either. Washington, Dallas, the Rams, Houston. With the way Philly's playing, I mean, I just, this isn't a super high-powered offense right now.

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Matt Brita, 144106. Played great. Yes, he did. A little bit of a difficult schedule in the year, though. Seattle, up in Seattle, then Denver, then Seattle again, then Chicago. Oh, oh. Yeah, not great. Wide receivers, let's talk about him. He did work this week. He ended up number one on the week. Amari Cooper 8 for 180 and 2 on 9 targets. Thanksgiving Day feast for Amari Cooper.

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