Midseason Review + Trade Targets, Hungry for More - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/30

So he's at 12, Garrett Wilson at 13, Jaden Reed at 14, and D.K. McCaff at 15. You know, most likely to jump into the top 10 out of some of the contenders that are outside of that group now. I think Marvin Harrison's the name that I'm going to say because he's at 10.5 points per game. But we just talked about Ladd-McConkie. You could have done a hungry for more for Marvin Harrison. They finally played. You know, they had a good game together. Six of seven targets scored again. The targets didn't change. It was the types of targets changed, and he actually caught them. Brief aside, I know we're getting through this name, but Jason and I, like we said, we watched the all 22 of every Kyler pass. I think that part of the fundamental issue in Arizona is play calling. Right now, the play design is a better. Yeah, play design. It's the better way to put it. There are so many plays. And the Cardinals offensive line is doing their best. I mean, they haven't given up a sack in three games.

When you look at Kyler, there are a place where he's had lots of time in the pocket, and he sees the back of four guys. Yeah, you drop back. He hits his three or five-step drop. He's looking. And we're still a second before a wide receiver turns around. Because all four routes are just downfield, like even McBride. And so there are some play design issues in Arizona. And I think those are something you can link back to Marvin Harrison. But they got it going this past week. Tyree Kill, though, I mean, is the real obvious one. Yeah, that's cheating. He's the cheat. He's at 40, by the way. He's a wide receiver 40 in points per game. Yeah, you're not worried about him. He'll pop in. Rest of season, he'll be a top 10 wide receiver. The name that I would throw in, he was a trade for target. It was scary because it looked like they might add a wide receiver. I think the wide receivers that are available are gone, but George Pickens. He's my pick. George Pickens has been really good, and he's been good.

On a film standpoint, I think he's been good the whole season. I really do. He has not gotten it done when he had Justin Fields. It was frustrating. I have to believe, I don't have the data in front of me, but I will be blown away if he does not lead the NFL in touchdowns called back. Because even before this last week where he had two, there were. Put both feet down. Sure. That won't happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's like there were. Big refs. Several. Yeah. And in his big ref. There are several plays. There's been a lot left on the field due to offensive line holdings that have come back. But even every penalty existing, the last two weeks with Russell Wilson, very small sample size, but they have moved the offense. And his yardage, he's on pace for over 1,500 receiving yards. Are you saying, though, by saying he's your pick, Mike, that you would take him over Marvin Harrison or Tyree Kill?

No. Tybreakil is the cheat. You're just saying he's another name to bring up? Tybrekill, I'm ruling him out. But it's like Pickens or Marv moving forward, I think I'd go George Pickens. Scott Barrett put out the tweet that heading into the week coming up, Pickens has led all players and fantasy points overturned and negated due to penalty. There you go. So I guess that was going into the last game, which he also had. Exactly. I mean, I guess in that game it was negated due to just close misses. Well, yeah, one was a penalty, though. Yeah. Stop committing penalties. Yeah, I mean, if you look at the, it's funny because there are a lot of players that are in the top list right now. Chris Godwin is gone. Brian Thomas might miss some time. We don't know when T. Higgins is coming back. Rushie Rice is done. So there's opportunity for a lot of these secondary wide receivers to jump up. So I think it's important to name these guys, the Josh Downs, Marvin Harrison's Pickens.

Even Oliva, who's going to get carback and has looked good on a per game basis. Those are the players that you need to target for the second half of the season. I know this is going to hurt. Man, this is going to hurt. I don't think it's good this week. I really don't. But I do think Tankdale has an awesome second half of the season. Without stuff? No, I know. I know. I know. I know. But Andy, just like you said, you know, Calvin Ridley, you're, you double down. This is a player we saw when it was Nico and him last year, ball out. He doesn't look like the same player. I will say that. He does not look like the same player as last year. The schedule opens up, and I would agree with that. One of my fears was the Tony Pollard fear, because remember he broke, was it his fibula or his ankle? I don't know. It broke, it was whatever happened to Tony Pollard, very similar injury. And we saw last season when he was a cowboy that the first half of the season was very bad for Pollard. And he did get the first.

It's like two thirds almost. Sure, but he did end up strong and he looks pretty fantastic this year. So without Stefan Diggs, wait for a bad week this week from Tink Dell and then trade for him. I do think he's necessary to what should be a good offense. And when Nico comes back and it's just him and Nico, I believe we'll see a lot of success. It pains me to say that because I know if we don't, my Twitter timeline will hear it. And I will take that on the chin, but I genuinely believe that it's a long season. And the second half of the season will be very good for Tank. All right. Tight-ins right now. George Kittle. George Kittles at 15.2 points per game. He's five points better than the next highest. Is that true? Is that really true? Brock Bowers is only at 10.8. Well, that makes sense because Brock Bowers, while he's been an awesome.

manimal out there dominating everyone. He doesn't even touchdowns. He's got one touchdown on the season. Yeah, and Kittles got a lot of them. He's the only tight-in since 2019 to finish in the top 10 every single week. So he's on fire right now. Yes, he is. Ayuk is gone. Yeah, there's no path to him not being on fire, really. I mean, McCaffrey's going to soak up targets, but Kittles is going to be fundamental rest of season. Bowers at 10.8, McBride at 10.2. Tucker Kraft at 9.6. I believe he's only got, let me see here. Yeah, I mean, the last four out of five weeks has been very good. His catch to touchdown rate is outrageous. Yes. David Najoku, 9.4. Kyle Pitts, 9.3, commit 9.1. KDotton. K doten at 8.5, Goddard at 8.4. Farewell. And then Travis Kelsey slipping into the top 10 at 8.4 points per game. At 11 and 12, by the way, Ingram.

Andrews at 8 and 7.7. How do you see the, like Tucker Craft, I think with the touchdown dependency is coming down. I would say Najoku, like Titans that I think have an upward trajectory. Let me, I'm going to go that way. The names that I'll say, Najoku. Yes. Otten. Yes. Ingram. Yes. Yeah. And I think, I think Leporta. Relative to where he is at 16. Sure, relative to 16, I think he'll have a better second half of the season than the first half. But I do not believe, and I think most people would agree that they don't think he's going to be what you hoped he was when you drafted him in the third round as the first titan off the board, thinking he was going to take a second year leap forward and become an even more important part of this offense. This week should be good without Jameson Williams. But James and he's going to be back from his two-game suspension.

Like we're talking about with Alman Rae St. Brown, Amman Rae's been a little disappointing, and he is quite very necessary for this offense. I would throw Travis Kelsey out there. You know, obviously Hopkins coming in might change things a little bit, but you've got a guy who's averaging eight and a half fantasy points per game. However, since the Rushie Rice injury in week four, he's averaging 12 fantasy points game. And that's more what we, you know, have come to expect and enjoy from Kelsey. Well, 12 would be second. Yeah. I mean, 12 would put him right behind Kittle. With the Sam Laporte Hope, I will throw out a cautionary optimism for Mark Hans. Whoa. For what is that? For what? For Mark Andrews. Okay. Cautionary. That was some word jumble. Cautionary optimism. Yes. However you want to say it. Cautionism. Sure. Oh, I like it. Have a little cautionism in your life. Of the the route participation last week was.

it's like it's been we're moving up it was like mark andrews is usual it's still it's still lower than like last year's elite mark andrews but it's at least it's moving up and if you have another week like that this week of of route participation moving up i know dante's there and will be worked in the offense but it's just we need we need snaps here we need routes for mark andrews because if he runs routes he will be very usable. In the last five weeks, which you can see on our stat page for 2024, you can sort it by last three, last five. In the last five weeks, he's the tied in five. Kittle, Pitts, Bowers, Otten, Andrews over the last five weeks. I forgot because this has been such a just an electric show. We've got a preview of Thursday night game. Thursday night breakdown. Wait, the Jets are in prime time?

Well, they're at home and they're favored as well. Houston, six and two, the Jets two and six. Drafking sportsbook line jets minus one and a half. Jason's blinking like a man who doesn't buy it. Over under's 42. They're favored. The two and six jets who just lost. I do think they win the ballgame. I said this yesterday when we were going through the picks. I had no clue whether they were favored or not. Houston is. I can tell you I will be taking the Texans. They're beat up and they're on the road. I, you know, if you don't like Tank Dell in this game, then who do you like scoring points? Joe Mixing. You remember CJ Stroud playing the Jets last year? It wasn't pretty. Yeah, it wasn't pretty. And C.J. Strat, I mean, okay, let's talk about that because it's a lot over under too, by the way. We've brought this up for over a year now that C.J. Stroud, while an awesome, wonderful future franchise quarterback.

When he's on the road against any kind of top half passing defense, he has, I mean, he's sucked. He has straight up, he's not been good. And now he loses Nico. He loses Stefan Diggs. So yeah, okay, I get that. I see why they could be favored at home. It's a good defense. On the flip side, the Jets have not been great on the ground. You can run on the Jets. And Joe Mixon, who has been really the current key cog for the Texans offense, should have an outstanding game. and be able to keep them in this. I worry more about what does the Jets offense look like against a pretty darn good Texans defense? You know, it's not been a fun one to watch this year in general. I mean, Rogers and Adams, like this past week was not the week to look at the traded wide receivers producing for your team because Adams had a fairly down week. Cooper was invisible. Hopkins not being utilized. So this was not a good week for that. I mean, Adams,

has 15 targets. Rogers clearly dealing with lower body injuries. He's in, you know, the defense of the Patriots came out after the game and even commented about his lack of mobility. I think he's, I actually, I think he's completely fine. He found cayenne pepper. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're back. What was that? And lemon or was it water? Water. Yeah, he says he's cool now. He found he, he's younger than ever. I didn't know if you'd bring this up. I just feel like it's like. It's very Aaron Rogers. Well, when you're two and six, you're, you know, he's already dead. You know, like, like I'm not even. He brought it up. This isn't me. This is, he did this to himself. Well, the punter introduced it to him. You know, punters. He found the fountain of youth in cayenne pepper water drink. Can we get some of that? I could, I'm 40. I need some of this cayenne pepper. What's the, uh, what's the ratio you got to go with? I don't know. I hope it's 80% pepper, 20% water. Yeah.

I would like to know that. I mean, I would like to find the fountain. He's been trying to get on hot ones for a while and they're like, prove it. So he is. So jokes aside, are you in on Wilson and Adams in this game? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I mean, the Texans run defense has been more stout than the past defense. If you look at the season adjusted for schedule, their top five against running backs, but they give up quite a few points to wide receiver. So I think both Adams and Garrett Wilson at home in a game, they're favored.

are in play. They did, Braylon Allen had his highest snap share since week four, had 12 opportunities on the ground, did score. It's a little bit of a red flag, just the fact that he got into the end zone in terms of, you know, you just talked about Montgomery and Breece Hall, right? Like Montgomery is going to get tons of red zone opportunities. If Breece Hall suddenly loses a couple. We thought the Allen experiment might be behind them. I don't know if it was just, hey, we're not succeeding. So let's try something different in this game. But it's worth noting it. Yeah, he's got three touchdowns on the season. You and I get to have, I didn't realize this, Jay, in our matchup, you have Breece Hall, right? Yes, I do. And I've got Joe Mixing. So we get to have a Thursday night football faceoff. I don't think that's going to be fun for me. Are you, okay, Andy, are you playing Tankdale? I'd try not to.

Okay. I play Cedricelman over him. I am at the place this week. I would try not to play Tankdale. Tankdale is like what I said about ETN last week. I will, if he performs well while he's on my bench, I'll just be happy that I have a future with him. Okay. I've got some names for you because I completely agree. All my Tankdale stuff, when he, if he stinks this week, don't hit my timeline because I said after this week. And then you can destroy my timeline. But for this week, would you play? Tank Dell or Amari Cooper, who has not yet been fully integrated and Amari Cooper's playing against Miami. That one's pretty close. I think I might try Tankdale just for the Thursday information. And what about DJ Moore? Against Arizona, a good matchup, but he's been disappearing. DJ Moore over him. Mike, are you there? I'd go, DJ Moore, yeah. Michael Pittman? I'd play Pittman. I'd give Pittman the shot. I think Pittman is an absolutely fine start this week. Tank Dell.

Tankdale could get a touchdown. He's going to be involved. And so you could sneak out an okay game, but my expectation for Tankdell is four for 46. You starting ending quarterback in Thursday night football? No. It's a low over and under. Damien Pierce has hurt again, by the way. He's not going to probably play this week. Oh, I did check groin index.com and I saw him. Is he there? Yeah, his quote was, ah. Oh, my God. I'm groin. Yeah, that's a very common refrain. If I have Stroud, I am, I'm streaming this week. Let me ask you, uh, as we close the show out.

A very important question. If you were sitting in a dynasty league and would you rather have like a second and a third round pick in Josh Downs? Second and a third and Josh Downs, okay. Or would you rather have like Romandre and Tillman in a dynasty? Cedric Tillman and Ramandre. Yeah. Or Josh Downs in a two, three? Yeah. I would take Josh Downs in a two, three. Got it. But I'm out on Remandre. See, it's close to me in the sense that Ramandre just got a contract. I saw that trade just get completed. Oh, did it go through? I don't know what you're talking about. Okay, so you just traded Ramandre. What are you talking about? So you just traded for Josh Downs in our dynasty league? Is that what happened? That is correct. He got Josh Downs, two, three for Tillman and Stevenson. Oh, that's nice. My goal now is the greatest goal of all time.

Oh, that's pretty cool. It's the Joe Flacco, Josh Downs championship. Oh. I like it. All right. So we'll wrap it up. We got a Halloween show tomorrow. YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballers. We got starts of the week. We've got matchups. We've got Wheel of Shame delayed. Is that what's going on? I think so. I think that's what we got to do. Here's the way it's going to work. I'm winning this week. Either Jason, yeah, if you win this week. Me and one of you will dress up. Yeah, I was going to say, it'll be a double trouble, double spin next week. If I lose, well, I can do Thursday, too. If you lose, we will do the wheel of shame at the beginning of the show. Oh, no. And then you will get it for the entire episode. Oh, that sucks. Oh, my gosh. That's what we'll be grinding my lineup this week. That's what we're going to do. All right. I agree. It's a plastic bag.

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