Week 9 Studs & Duds + Allen FIRED, Barn Burners - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/4

If it was Barn burner, though, then the good one should be the builder. I don't know that you've ever seen a barn burn down. That's a good time. Anyways, yeah. You ever built a barn? Not fun. Not a good time. I've never participated in either of those, Mike. Yeah, Andy and I's team in League of Record, we faced off against each other. Did we? Is that what we did? Trades to... you know, leverage my future to have big strong assets like Jonathan Taylor. We did nothing. We covered your trade when you were out of office allegedly at a school event making trades. But, look, I mean, you're, you always got to be. You always got to be working. But, uh, yeah, I mean, Andy, all your entire roster, uh, scored one touchdown. Yeah. And my entire. Cause my quarterback. Yeah. My entire roster, including my quarterback scored one touchdown. That's the worst. The worst.

Yeah, I mean, we, this is studs. So let's focus on the good players. Jalen, Hurst, Joe Burrow, Daniel Jones, Lamar Jackson, Gino Smith, your top performance at quarterback. Gino Smith. Burrow was the start of the week. You'll notice the absence of any Colts quarterbacks here. That game went south last night. But Hertz has been on fire. I think he has 12 touchdowns, no interceptions in the last three games. Very good. I don't know how great he will be if he has to miss AJ Brown for any amount of time, but TBD on that injury. Yeah, every time Brown is out, the numbers have been poor, but this has been a great run. Sequin's moving the offense. Joe Burrow could have had six touchdowns. He had five. They play Baltimore this week. That's always fun. Oh, man. Those games are great. That will be a lot of fun. Joe Burroughs on pace for 38 passing touchdowns. I look, I'm at the point now in the season where it's like,

I want to find that guy, that DAC player from last year that's lined up to dominate. And unfortunately for Burrow, like I don't like the playoff schedule. You've got to go on the road to Tennessee. Then you got to play Cleveland, Denver. No, you need the phasers if you're looking for the second half DAC. Is that Kirk? That is. Kirk Cousins has a phenomenal schedule down the stretch, playoff weeks. Now, needs Drake London back, obviously. Yes, I mean, the weapons are important, but he's been playing good ball. And I know, you know, he didn't have a lot of fantasy points a couple weeks ago when they dominated, but that was because of the rushing touchdowns. But he has been really good. I mean, three touchdowns this week, four touchdowns last week. He can get it done down the stretch. Next Wednesday, and he was on Waverwire before this week.

in our league. Next Wednesday, we'll do a playoff primer and get you ready with the best schedules for every position. So we won't focus on that today. We'll let another week get under our belt and then we'll go ahead and dive in. But big performances, you know, nice to see Josh Allen, he's a quarterback five on the year, overcome the Diggs departure and, you know, no, Amari Cooper this week. Pretty impervious to the personnel at times. And then, you know, Darnold performed well last night as well. So some good performances at quarterback. None of them played for Jason or I. Yeah. Darnold gets the Jaguars next week. Yeah. Oh, that's very nice. Running back leaders this week. Hello, Sequin. He was so awesome. And if you haven't seen, which I don't know how you haven't seen, because it's everywhere. But he backward hurtled a guy. It was so cool. It was incredible. Yeah. He was, I mean.

They're going to kill the man. I feel like he had 75 rushing attempts. Every play was just give it to Sequin and watch him be a stud. But he has been a stud. Barkley, number one on the week. Jason's my guy, Devon A. Chan, number two on the week, eight catches. Derek Henry, Alvin Camara, who will be worked to death the rest of the year. And then Chase Brown. Chase Brown getting it done for the. He got a receiving touchdown for the Bengals. He's been really good since he started getting more work. I mean, you can go back all the way to week four. You look at his fantasy points scored, and he's only got one week since week four where he's not double digit fantasy production and half PPR scoring. So with Moss being injured, he had 100% of the running back rush attempts. And this is a player I think you can somewhat rely on, although Baltimore this week tough matchup for running backs. I do want to go back to my dude, Devon A. Chan.

Just to make sure people know how insane. Just to make sure you two know how insane his performances have been. And the four starts with Tua. Here's his pace. Okay. He is on pace through those four games for 229 carries and 1190 rushing yards. It's very solid. He is also on pace for 119 receptions, not targets, 119 receptions with over 1,000 receiving yards and 13 receiving touchdowns. He is averaging 24.3 fantasy points per game and half PPR scoring. It's crazy and full PPR scoring because he's, I mean, like I said, 119 reception pace. That's what you want from your wide receiver ones. It's what you want from Jalen Waddle, and that's why Waddle doesn't exist right now, is because of the incredible involvement in the passing game of both Devon A-chan first.

And then even the involvement of Johnny Smith in this year's offense, Waddle has disappeared. You locked into a touchdown with him. And then you unlocked into negative yards on a, what are those plays called? The hook and ladder. Hook and ladder, please. Yeah, I mean, you want to waddle away from him right now. This is not target share wise. It's Tyree kills number one with Tua. And A-chan is number two, over 20%. So. Jason, you went after him. You told people to buy low before the two of return. We are all just praying to us days upright the rest of the year. And A-chan. He carries his own it-bitty-bitty-baby-boy risks. Mike did not get pushed off at Chuba Hubbard, and it paid off. 15 for 72 and 2 for Chuba Hubbard. Remandre, two more touchdowns. But that's it. That's it for Chuba, everybody. Oh, it's over because Jonathan Brooks is coming back.

I thought you were saying that's it for Ramandre when he said, Ramandre had two touchdowns, because you're not wrong. That is also true. Remandre had two touchdowns, got all the work. I mean, he's just, he's been, the utilization has been crazy with him. He's getting all the work for no yards. He has four of his games inside the top 10 at the position. Four of them. Yeah. Over the last two weeks, he has 30. We can go, here I'll give you this 30 rushing attempts for 64 yards. Over the last three weeks, he is running for 2.2 a carry. Yeah, but he is their guy around the red zone and they have nobody else. And he did catch five passes in this game. Rico Dowdell, 12 for 75, 5 for 32 and 1 had a juggling catch that got everybody in the studio all excited. It was, it was very funny. It seems like, well, first deck.

Rico was wide open immediately on the play. For whatever reason, Dak did not unload it, scrambled around a little bit, made the play difficult. Then the pass was still easy. Rico drops it and turns it into one of the circus catch. It's one of the first catches. They actually credited him with three receptions on the play. The question for Rico, next week is Philadelphia. That kind of stinks. But Zeke was a healthy scratch because of he was being disciplined as well of I think he's not very happy with his role on the team right now, showing up late to meetings of things. That's what's being reported. But, like, as of right now, RICO has two games of 50 or more, 50 or more percent of the snaps for the Cowboys. And in both of those games, he's an RB1. I don't know what this, I don't know if they're going to make a move at running back. No, I don't think, I don't think so. It seems stupid for them to buy, but they've also been doing a lot of stupid stuff this year.

Wide receiver performed. Did you want to comment on Dowdle? I think Dowdle will be an okay start almost rest of season. And for, you know, I've been as out on Dowdle as, you know, I've doubtled him the whole season. But it does appear that he is going to get the opportunity, especially with what happened with Zeke. Now, like you said, the Cowboys have done crazy things all year. So they'll bring Zeke back and make him the starter and no one will be shocked. But also Bejohn had a great game. I want to point this out, though, on Bejohn. I saw J.J. Zacharison. He pointed this out. And I just, it's fascinating about the running back rush attempts on Bejohn this year. Now it's gone back and forth week after week. Have you guys seen this? No. So the running back rush attempts, the share of running back rushes that go to Bejon, week one, 86%. Week two is down to 61%. Week three, up to 70%.

week four down to 47 percent week five up to 67 percent week six down to 45 week seven up to 68 percent week eight down to 52 percent week nine up to 76 it's all over the place but it's like it's exactly ever is this like a game plan where it's like to keep him fresh every other week they're gonna like let him unleash and then every other week kind of time share it's just so weird that it's exactly every other week for this long. This is over months. Alger did get into the end zone again in this one. Yeah, yeah, he did. Top five scores at wider receiver. JSN with 33 and a half points, Zay Flowers, Garrett Wilson, DeMarcus Robinson, Quentin Johnson, Quentin Johnson, Quinton, Johnston, Quinton, Johnston, in the same. In fact that all four first round wideouts from 2023 scored this week and Jason, Quentin Johnson, Zayflowers, and Addison. That is the first time they have all scored a touchdown in the same week.

Flowers had two. J.S.N. had two. Garrett had two. And Quentin Johnston, four for one, 18 and one. And they were all pretty awesome. Like, they all played very well. I don't even know who I want to talk the highest of, but I'm between. Quentin Johnson and Zay Flowers was unbelievable out there. He was just, he was making a fool of defenders getting open like crazy and doing, you know, whatever he wanted. going forward, it's tough in that offense because there's just so many different ways they can score. What is your thought process on JASN specifically moving forward? Because they go into the by week. D.K. McCaf has missed time. They are sitting at the bottom of the division. They, there have been rumors about D.K. Maccaf's being traded. I don't know if that'll happen. Obviously, the odds are against that happening, but I do think it's possible. There have been rumors with the Steelers, the Broncos, who are competitive.

and some other teams that have more space. Seahawks have to decide whether they are like in right now. Cardinals at five and four, the rest of the teams at four and four. So is Jason a player you can go get or is this performance take them off the table? I believe that, well, you could definitely go get him because I think people are aware. There was no D.K. Metcalfe in this game. And so that's obviously going to elevate his. Target markets share his opportunities. And if you watch the end of the game, this was like a must throw the ball. The clock is running out. We're down back and forth, the fair with the Rams. So I think this was situational. He is obviously very talented. He's capable of doing this, but this is not normal or prescriptive of the future, unless the trade for DK Metcalf happens. So if you're out there and you really believe Metcalf is going to be traded, you've got about a 24-hour window to capitalize on it and get JSM, but you're not going to have him this week with the buy.

I personally don't think back half is traded, so I'm not hot and bothered by JSN here. In fact, I think the player who's maybe the most prescriptive of this four pack, as gross as it sounds, might be Quentin Johnston. Quentin Johnston. Oh, he's on waiver wires. That's what I'm saying. He's available to get. And he was looking good before the injury, which we kind of discounted because you just don't have enough. Well, you discounted it because those first four weeks or whatever it was they were so high tea. And it was. Yeah, it was touchdown only. It wasn't yardage. This is a hundred yard game for him. Like the last month, the team is opening things up for Justin Herbert. I like Ladd McConkey in this past week. I didn't realize that Quge was going to come out and put up four for 118. First 100 yard game of his career. So I do, I think Quinn Johnston is going to be a very, he'll be the priority ad, but I think it's worth it of like if.

If this is really what this team is, figuring out that they have a great quarterback and they should throw the ball more, then you get him more volume and things will happen. Well, and Dobbins, we didn't talk about it in the running backs, but he scored twice. This is a balanced offense that dominated start to finish. Herbert is so effective, especially in play action. And Quentin Johnson closing it on the total fantasy points he scored last year through only six games played. Devante Adams big night on Thursday night. Darnell Mooney continues to dominate. Drake London misses any time. Mooney is a must-start type of player. He's the wide receiver 12 on the season. That's crazy. I mean, he has been an important piece to a very good offense. Devante Smith was doing nothing. Then he was doing everything. Four for 87 and it touched him. We were late in the game and I was complaining because I've got the Jalen Hertz, Devante Smith stack. And I'm like, he's one for nine. He missed practice the whole week.

for personal reasons. And we're like, is he just not a part of the game? Okay, there he is. Well, AJ Brown got knocked out and then. And then Devante had that huge touchdown catch. I'm seeing news that head coach Antonio Pierce, by the way, Raiders head coach has not decided on a new OC or quarterback. Maybe they'll be the same guy. So that's an empty offense. We're going to, dude, you can't start Desmond Ritter. That's been proven. That's just science. I'm not, oh man, they're in a bad situation. Justin Jefferson, 7 for 137. Cedric Tillman, 11 target 7, 75 yards in a touchdown going into the bye week. Boss touchdown. I mean, that touchdown was not called a touchdown on the field because it seemed impossible. And then you look at the replay and you're like, who. It was also very stinky garbage. Uh, yeah, but I mean, I just care about the, the capabilities of the wide receiver. Yes.

I mean, this is a day two draft pick last year who just vanished from the NFL and now is. There are no. Legit better quarterbacks for garbage time than James Winston. That is probably true. And for the first time in the history of this program, I want to talk positively about Cortland Sutton. Ten targets, seven for 122 through a touchdown pass that pass funnel that Baltimore's got going on continues. Sutton has had two straight weeks. Suttonly. 18 and 6. And he also was... 21 targets in that span. He was also... He's the clear number one for this team. I know he had a goose a couple weeks back, but over the course of the season, I mean, he is so dominantly the wide receiver won for this franchise as Bo Nix gets better and better. And he was just missed on a touchdown this week. So he could have had an even bigger game. On pace for 130 targets this year. We'll take a break. We'll hit the tight ends and then we'll talk about them stinkers.

Top five tight-in scores of the week, Sticky Gisicki with 24.5 fantasy points. And that ends our predictive list. I mean, it was like Josh Oliver, Taysam Hill, Theo Johnson. Brock Bowers got to 13 because he will, just targets. But Sticky Gisiki was the pick. Trey McBride had him. He still has no receiving touchdowns, but he did get another. touchdown. He had a rushing touchdown this week. Oh, it saved his day, too. Three for 35 through the year. Have you tweeted out that play? You got to tweet. Well, Ian Hart, I was going to cut it myself and Ian Hart had already posted it. So I'll just retweet it. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, we were watching it live. And it mattered because Kyler. Shrieking at the TV. Kyler was Andy's League of Record quarterback. And there's a play where they sell out as a run with only one player on the goal line. On the goal line.

They're clearly running the ball. And they leak one player, just one player, to the back of the end zone on a play action. So the play is only designed to go to one guy. Which is what made it so confusing. And he was when we say wide open, I mean, you got to watch this play. The defense didn't know he existed. You know how they print the letters in the end zone of the team name? Right. There was the full letters gap plus a little more. It could read the whole cardinals. Yeah, he was on the top of the word and everyone else was on the bottom of the word. And Kyler just didn't throw the ball. It's not partial blindness. It seemed like he looked right at him. This year, no player has been screenshoted missing wide open players more than Kyler Murray. I don't know if it is.

I don't know if it's that he can't see over the line. Like, you know, the whole like, oh, he's shorty. Maybe he can't see him. But even if you couldn't see him. That's the play you called. You literally could have done this blindfolded. You could have closed your eyes, fake the hand off, turn around, and throw it to a spot anywhere over to my right. And it would have been a touchdown. He didn't throw the ball. But they did make up for it by giving him a rushing touchdown a drive later. I mean, so McBride, Harrison, Kyler. Okay, all three of them.

disastrous fantasy days. Yes. Okay, I guess McBride was three for 35 with a touchdown. Yeah, I mean, so not disastrous, but to your expectations, four targets. My point is that the Cardinals won 29 to 9. Their defense gave up no points in the second half. So it's just weird when like I saw the COD Kyler criticisms coming out again. They won 29 to 9. They're leading the NFC West. It's that it was a fantasy production thing. It's that the team is, they're finding the identity of the team. And it's James Connor. Well, look, when you're winning like that and your defense is playing like that, I don't think Kyler did a thing wrong outside of that one play in the game. Because there's nothing you should have had to do that was different. You ran for 150 on the ground. He only attempted eight passes in the second half.

Yeah, because it was just... He didn't have to run, but it should tell you something about what can happen here. I've lost three times this year because of Kyler Murray, where I've played him. I didn't play him last week against Miami. It has a huge game. Yeah, so he's won a, like four weeks here over 20 points for Kyler. That's, that will really, really help your team win, but the other times are just... Yeah, you should just push the button because we're already into it. Poopped in his big boy pants. Kyler Murray. Yeah, I mean, Kyler also got credited with a fumble that was so not his fault. No. Oh, my gosh. The running back goes to take the hand off and his hands are closed before the ball. You open the monster, dude, and then you chomp down on the ball. Go back to peewee. I was going to say your son plays football. Yeah.

Do they tell you to keep your arms closed when they hand the football? You don't reach for the ball with your hands. Open the monster. Just make the target. The quarterback shoves it right in your tummy. But Kyler's finish is the quarterback 1, 7, 6, and 10. Those are his good weeks. Those are great. But this week he scored in half point, four point scoring. He scored 4.8 fantasy points. That might be his. All time historical low in a game. I would imagine it is if you take out any game that he got injured. He really didn't play well. That or did not play poorly. He played pretty well in this game. They didn't need him. The sucky thing though going forward is that you can see situations where they're not utilizing the running. They don't need to. They don't need to. And it's not a, it's not a guarantee that it's going to happen every game. And that's always been the baseline for fantasy of those.

type of fantasy assets, those true dual threat quarterbacks where it's like, hey, even if he doesn't throw a touchdown this game, he, you know, he might have 50 rushing yards and that's fine. You just don't see a lot of games. Kyler Murray had six rushing yards this week. He has a week earlier this year with 14 rushing yards and a week earlier with three rushing yards. That's just, that's not a, that's not a dual threat quarterback. And Marvin Harrison can't catch a competitive pass. Yeah. Well, some weeks. He caught him all last week. Jordan Love also a. just a terrible performance. 273, no touchdowns, threw a pick. Yes, it was raining, but he was hurting. He was hurting. It's really tough. I want to throw this in the garbage. I really do because that wasn't just raining. That was like a swamp. I mean, it was awful. However, Jared Goff could complete passes. He threw the ball down the field and hit receivers in stride.

The yardage was good for love. He wasn't in a dissimilar game. He was in identical. He was on the same field. So I think some of it's got to be the injury. Some of it's got to be the weather. But the Packers were, they had the crap beat out of him. Overall game plan. Because, yeah, golf threw the ball 22 times for 145 yards. That's 6.6 yards per attempt. Like, that's not challenging. the defense at all. That's just taking little dinks of dunks because Monty and Gibbs were so effective. So Love, maybe you can throw it away, but they go into the buy and get healthy. Then they play Chicago, San Francisco. Love is right on the edge of that. I definitely want for the rest of the season quarterback for me. I don't know it definitively. Yeah, I get it. But he's on the edge of that. But that's where Kyler lives. Kyler lives on the edge of that. There's a lot of quarterbacks right on the

on the edge of like, do I trade this player or do I just ride it out? It's really tough with love because they're going into their buy week. Then they've got Chicago, which is who Kyler just played, who is, they're not great against the run. They are awesome against quarterbacks, wide receivers. Their past defense is great. Then they've got San Francisco. So it's like it's a tough, it's a tough like three week stretch. If you're going to go by Jordan Love, I don't think you're going to want to rely on him to be that dude starting now. I mean, obviously not starting now on a buy week.

Jonathan Taylor heads up our duds at the running back position, 13 for 48 on the ground, just three for 11 through the air. Five targets. Jason, this was not a good start to the I hope Jonathan Taylor's the running back one rest of season. Yeah, that's kind of like the bet I was trying to make. I was really hoping. to trade for a superstar that could essentially get five targets in the in the past game he looked so he's looked great every time we've seen him on the field this year until uh i trade for him however minnesota's run defense is elite very difficult to run against them and they proved it um buffalo i think he'll be better next buffalo new york the next Detroit new england so the next

Three of the next four weeks are plus matchups for running backs. Buffalo, you can run on them. The Jets, you can run on them. New England, you can run on them. Detroit, not so much. What happens if Flacco keeps losing? Oh, man. I don't think this one was a very fair fight, so to speak. I mean, it was tough, tough environment, tough to go in there with the blitz packages that Brian Flores throws your way in Minnesota and get it done. But he... Clearly didn't get it done. It's like a yes and no situation on, I don't think when you are the age and the experience that Joe Flacco is that you're allowed to be like, ah, they had some tough blitz packages with a good defense. That's the point. That's why we went to Blackos so that you can handle those things. And he straight up did not handle those things. He looked atrocious. He threw a really nasty pick on the sideline. Josh Downs had a dud of a game because of it. Yeah. He also, he had several times where he just.

should have uncorked the ball, was hesitant, and then got sacked. So hugely disappointing. I don't know why he wasn't in the duds, but Joe Flacco was a huge dud. I made the decision last minute in fear of Flacco and the blitz packages to throw the illustrious Kyler Murray into a lineup to score an extra two points. Oh, so it was the right decision. Oh, yeah, six to four. Congratulations. Process and results. Oh, baby. Yeah, I'm getting it done. What do you do with the Jags running back here? Yeah, ETIN and Bigsby, Philadelphia, I've been saying this for a few weeks. Their defense is very good. Go look at it. Their numbers, when we break it down on the matchup shows, are very, very elite across the board. So E.T.N struggled. Tank Biggsby. Stank Biggsby. E.T. and caught two passes. They both stink. And they're going to stink in matchups like this because this offense is toasted.

So the next two weeks? Who are the matches? Minnesota and Detroit? Yeah, I don't think I want to. The rule on ETN, and I heard you reinforce it on Sunday live. It was show me it on the field before you're going to be in my lineup. Well, he's not going to be in your lineup thing because he didn't show it on the field. Also the split, 31%. Yeah, he had three rushing attempts. I mean, Deerness got work. You can't start a player. Not only did Deerness get work, Andy. I don't know if you caught this. The final attempt here. for the huge comeback that the Jags were mounting. Most important play of the game was a fade-type route to Deerness Johnson. A fade route is a tough one to pull off. Let me try this out. If you got a superstar wide receiver, okay. Maybe you're running back one. That's probably not good. You're running back three? Let me try this out. Yeah, like, hey, hey, hey grandkids. Doug Peterson's grandkids. I was a head coach once upon a time.