Camp Hype + Strategy Q & A, Miles Sanders News - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/19

Yes, you are in fact correct at New England. Yeah, here's the problem with Ryan Fitzpatrick. And I remember talking about this because... Which is where he was the number four overall quarterback to end the year. Because he actually went into Foxborough and torched them and Devante Parker had another great game. But can he move that Fitzmagic forward? I'm not betting on that. Week one is the Pats. Week two is the Buffalo Bills.

There's no reason. There's much better options for the first weeks. And if you're going to invest a late round pick on a quarterback, give me somebody that I think will take a huge step forward over the course of the year because then maybe I went and got that guy that Joe Burrow or the Matthew Stafford or somebody that has less of a chance of being pulled halfway through this season, which is Ryan Fitzpatrick's number one bullet point is maybe pulled halfway through the season. And check this out. I didn't remember.

How bad it was. Patriots, Bills, Jaguars. All right. All right. I'll stream on week three. Absolutely. Seahawks, Niners, Broncos. Yikes. So if he's alive in week three after those first two weeks. Look, man. Chargers, Rams after that. Like, there's no great match up here. I appreciate this person wanting to reward Ryan Fitzpatrick for what he did to end the year. Yeah. And that was your reward. That's bringing you up.

All right, let's grab another voicemail question. What's up, ballers? Bonjour from the Indiana cornfields. Oh, my. I'm just giving you guys a call trying to see what you guys' opinions are on Philip Rivers, Jason's favorite QB. What's his ceiling and what's his floor? That'd be great to know. Thanks. His ceiling was 2008 or something like that. Oh, come on. Philip Rivers is a no-ceiling player.

But what do you think his ceiling finish is this year? Quarterback 11? I would have said 15. Really? Yeah. Oh, I think Rivers can easily crack the top 10. There's too many quarterbacks out there that I am more interested in seeing what their ceiling is, like even a Tyrod Taylor or something like that. Look, I think Rivers can, I think his ceiling is like a QB8, QB9. He is.

He is surrounded by talent and he is surrounded by talent on the offensive line that will keep him upright. I realize that the offensive line is definitely better as a Colt than it was as a charger. But if you talk about him being surrounded by talent, I think you probably had more talent with the Chargers. Having Keenan Allen as just an every down possession guy and Mike Williams down the field and half the time Hunter Henry.

Plus, I mean, Austin Echler, how much better does it get out of the backfield for someone with that skill set? And now, yeah, you improve your offensive line, which is good. You're going to need it because you're getting used to all new players. You don't have that three-year, four-year rapport with Keenan Allen. So, you know, last year he was the quarterback 15 with all those weapons. And I think he is a...

We call him safe. But they're going to run the foot. He's a running team. Yeah, I mean, he's not going to be great for fantasy. When he first showed up as a Colt, it was like, man, I did not, he might not have gotten a team. There's no better landing spot for Philip River. So he was kind of exciting. But the more I've dug into it, just thinking about how the team wants to be, they're great on defense. They're great at running the ball. They drafted Jonathan Taylor, Marlon Mack.

This is a team that I think is going to have Philip Rivers do what he needs to do to win. He's not going to need to do that much. I was smirking here because, yeah, I get it. They drafted Jonathan Taylor to be the running team. Who did they draft before Jonathan Taylor, Jason? Yes, they drafted Michael Pickman. They drafted a wide receiver. The highest finish for Philip Rivers all last year on any given week was number eight.

So when you look at that on a week-to-week basis, yes, at the end of the year, you might be able to smile and say, okay, he was kind of steady Eddie. I think he'll be very, he'll be very steady. Giving you the, all the couple years ago, Drew Brees, where on a weekly basis, he's 13 to 16, but if he plays every single game, then he just ends up as a top 10 guy. I've heard a stat several times, and I don't know the specifics of the scoring, but I believe it's just whatever ESP and standard scoring is, in Philip Rivers career, he's never had a 30-point game.

Never had a 30-point fantasy game, which it seems, I mean, that's the craziest stat outside of Larry Fitzgerald's tackles to drop some stat. Because he's had such a long career, and you think of him as a big play guy and never had a 30-point fantasy game. So, yeah, I think Philip Rivers is maybe a streaming, you know, a matchup that looks juicy, but even still.

It's not meant to be disrespectful of Philip Rivers. I think it's better for the team to have Philip Rivers than Jacobi Broussett. It's more like when we walked through our quarterback rankings shows. We did two episodes. Those first 20 guys, then you could make a case for these players from 20 to 30, the Teddy Bridgewaters, the Joe Burroughs, the Gardner Men Shoes. Every single one of those guys, you can see this pathway to elite play. But I don't

see it for Philip Rivers, I guess. So, I mean, steady, good for the Colts, probably not on my fantasy roster. This has been cathartic for me. Thank you. I feel good about what's just happened. All right. Andrew from Twitter wants to know, well, first he says bonjour from Canada. Oh, bonjour. Oh, bonjour. How does draft strategy change for an eight-team league?

Should I grab quarterbacks and tight-ins earlier as depth is rarely an issue? And waivers are deep. Yeah, I think we tend to do that. Yeah, 100%. In an eight-team league, man, where would I take Travis Kelsey and George Kittle? Because I think it might legitimately be like pick seven or even a little bit earlier. The reality is your entire league is going to have.

Great running backs, great wider. Just a great team. Yeah. But there's only a few tight ends. And you can argue, you can say that, okay, well, that makes Pat Mahomes, Lamar Jackson much more valuable as well because they are a separator. Yeah. But the difference between why the tight ends are so much more separate is because if you look at the eighth quarterback, they're fantastic. They're going to put up tons of points. If you look at the eighth tight end, they're trash. They're going to.

go out there and poop the bed half of their games. So, yeah, I think getting Kelsey, Kittle, Ertz, Andrews, I would not want to leave a draft without one of those guys. And the top tight ends, we've seen a much higher probability that they're going to repeat. Quarterbacks are very tough, man. They bounce all over the place. We still believe in Lamar and Patrick Mahomes, but you saw, I mean, what was Mahomes the QB7?

Or so I know he got hurt, but I'm saying he looked on fire, and then it was just, then it was just good. Yeah. So quarterbacks are tough. All right. Well, and the thing is, is all players can get hurt to subvert the, you know, like, oh, man, they draft the quarterback high, draft the tight end high, and they could get hurt and they could ruin you drafted in that high. But, you know, that applies to running backs and wide receivers too, and you need more depth at those positions. It's a little riskier. All right, here's a question.

from the website, Robert Woods versus DJ Moore. Jack wants to know if the draft shakes out and I go running back for the first two rounds, which is the better choice for a wide receiver one? Is it Robert Woods or is it DJ Moore? For me, it's Robert Woods. Yeah, for me, it's DJ Moore. I love both of these players. When I look at, I think they're both safe. I think they're both the clear-cut ones and they're going to be involved and manufactured in their offense. But the upside to me,

is still on DJ Moore's side. He, you know, he's coming into his third year and he could break out and be a superstar. His athletic profile, his draft capital, what he's, his production in his second year. A lot of things point to him having a true superstar ability. Whereas Robert Woods, we know what he is, which is awesome for fantasy, consistent, reliable. I love getting them. But if I'm picking between those two players, I still want that upside. It's DJ Moore for me.

Yeah, I like the past attempts in Los Angeles and the fact that there aren't any other options, it feels like. But, yeah, DJ Moore has more upside, no doubt. All right, let's grab another voicemail question. Hey, Ballas, Kevin from Indiana. A few years ago, I was able to start Alvin Camara and Mark Ingram every single week and make it to my league championship. I was just wondering if there were any same team, same position players that you would feel comfortable starting weekend and week out this year. Thanks.

Same team, same position. Well, that's an easy yes, but it's not running back. Yeah, let's talk about running back. He doesn't say that. Yeah, but it's unhelpful. There's only one running back core that I would be okay with. I don't know if you guys can think of more, but to me it's Nick Chubb, Kreme Hunt. I think you're going to be able to play both of those guys every single week and be completely, I think both players will be, you know, a top 24 back.

almost every single week. There's a chance that you could get that out of Denver. There's a chance you could get Melvin. Yeah, with Lindsay and Gordon. There's the opportunity for that. There's not very many backfields where you could look at it and say, I mean, do you think Justin Jackson and Austin Echler are a possibility? That was the one I was going to bring up of, we've seen L.A. be able to sustain two running backs of value. It's pretty rare that you see the starter and the backup running back both putting up.

numbers. Alvin Camaro Latavius Murray? See, you're not going to be able to start every week. Yeah, and for Echler, the reason they were able to do that is because his skill set was so different than Melvin Gordon. It'll be very interesting to see how the depth chart shakes out. There was the little news report. Justin Jackson is getting some time with the ones, simply meaning he is ahead of Joshua Kelly, which if you look around other than Edwards O'Lear, like,

The rookies are the backups. No one has been able to move up the depth chart just yet. San Francisco. Oh, there you go. That's a great one. It's possible. Yeah, Coleman and Moster. It's definitely possible. Indianapolis? Mac and Taylor? Unless McKinnon comes in the number one offensive line? I don't think you're going to be happy with Mack and Taylor. I feel like you need one of the two backs to have a pass-catching role in the offense for both, you know, Korea. So what if it's Taylor and Heinz?

Heinz is not losing third downs on that, on that offense. Right. How about, how about DeAndre Swift and Caryon Johnson? Eh? Was it, was it B? Yeah. Yeah, nothing really, man. In the Detroit backfield. If you just want to be a pure nihilist, nothing matters. Go ahead. Start the Lions running back. Any chance for Leonard Forenett and Chris Thompson? I'm throwing some wild cards out of there. I will say this.

Far more than the Detroit backfield for me. Last one, Devon Singletary, Zach Moss. That did pop up in my head as well. If Singletary is the Matt Forte and then Zach Moss is Michael Bush. The difference in our answer to what you had with Ingram and Camara is that we are speculating on maybes. And there really aren't a lot of... There's only one probable.

Which is chub and hunt. Yes, Chub and Hunt. I think you could start them week in and week out. But if you do that, realize you are for sure capping your upside. Here's a nice follow-up from Tim in California. Jonathan Taylor at RB27 seems low. Why are you so low on him? Yeah, the truth is it, you know, the way the temperature felt, the way the breeze was going by that. I mean, the information we're getting out of.

out of camp from their regime from the coaches is they were good it's going to be marlin mac now at least for you know to start the season i am sliding closer and closer to jonathan taylor takes that job on the on the quickness on the quick end maybe even game two so it jonathan taylor will be moving up in my ranks yeah marlin mack is the is the reason that jonathan taylor is so low i

Love Jonathan Taylor. I think he's outstanding. But I can't see a world where Marlon Mack doesn't have 150 carries this year. That's not much. You know, he had 250 last year. I think they're going to involve him. This is obviously a slower process for rookies this year, getting involved. So, yeah, I think it's going to be at some point during the second half of the year, Jonathan Taylor is going to be.

a weekly fantasy football option. But on the course of the season, which we're statting especially for your going into your fantasy football drafts, I just don't love taking that gamble. And Naim Hines is going to be heavily involved. He was one of the best run blocking running backs last year on third down. He's going to be involved in the Echler role. And Philip Rivers loves some hines. I feel like we've lost that. We were talking about that more in the beginning of the off season. Like I had brought up, you know, the.