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Fantasy Football 2018 - Player Price Check + WR Revelations

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with an atonal scream, and I was joining in to make it girthy. Okay, okay. We'll see what Twitter thinks. They'll always take your side anyway. All right. I love you, Twitter! Unverified love. If you have a question for the show, go to the fancy footballers.com, click the submit a question button. Or better yet, dial our voicemail hotline 302-464 TFFB. We're going to hit the voicemail first. Hello, ballers. This is Ken from Pittsburgh. Hey, got a quick question for you.

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Finally got enough guys to commit to do a dynasty again. I'm super excited to do my first one. When should I do my first draft? When should I try to get everybody committed? We got high interest right now since everybody just committed. Should I do it now or should we wait until closer to the season so people don't get messed up with injuries? Love to hear what you guys think. Love the podcast. I hope to hear what you guys think. Yeah, what do you guys think? I would highly recommend for a dynasty startup.

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One of the great things about Dynasty is you can play more in the off season. But when it comes to the startup draft, the first initial startup draft, that's going to impact the next decade of your league. And so it's really hard for me to recommend. Like if everyone's in agreement and they understand the risk, do it early. But my recommendation would probably be after week three of preseason, same as we do with redraft. Because...

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It just, you know, the stakes are so much higher for if some guy has a catastrophic injury early in the season and before you ever had them in a dynasty startup draft where you're going to have this roster forever, I would prefer it to be later. I'm fine with that. And a reminder, we kind of talked about dynasty startups. If you look up episode 525 is back at February 22nd, we kind of elaborated on it at length.

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By the way, if you want to get in a league with some other Footclan listeners, you can check out join thefoot.com, our community. We give you access to Footclan leagues. You can join Dynasty League, Startup leagues, local leagues, online leagues, all that stuff. We know finding good people is tough, which this listener kind of insinuated here. It's been tough to get everybody on board and interested. Glad you got it done. But if you need people, check that out. All right. Thomas in Germany. Bonjour. Bonjour.

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I'm in a 12-team league, and I'm allowed to choose as the second in the league from which spot I went to draft. What do you think? Where would you want to draft this year? These questions are now on our doorstep. I think I want to draft four. Do you? You'd rather pass on Bell or Gurley for just a slightly improved second-round pick? I would because to me, Bell, Gurley, Zeke and Johnson are...

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close enough i do have them kind of you know maybe not in the same exact tier but they're close enough where that second round you watch depending on who who goes and it's like oh there's that one player you're hoping makes back to you and every one of those spots matters so that's that's my current i would go five i'm also i would take i would take the fifth pick but the fifth pick is antonio brown almost always and i'm fine with that no that's that's not what it would be for me i would go fifth pick alvin camara

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If the first four went, I'd be at five because I think in a lot of drafts, the first four aren't going to go chalk. Antonio Brand will sneak in there and I'll get one of those top four anyway at five. So I would take five. Oh, man. You just want to be at the top, Mike? I'm not opposed to going four, but being able to have Levi-on Bell is such an advantage. And I'll put Todd Gurley in there even though, look,

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Gurley could have some regression. We know that Levy on Bell. Gurley is usually ADP. Gurley is the number one. So by what you're saying, it sounds like you would take the number two spot. Hope that you get Lev Bell there, fine with Gurley. Yeah. But essentially what we are saying is that the advantage, so long as health comes, I mean, you know, there's always busts in the first round, but the advantage of having one of those absolute elite stud players that are only found in the first.

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few picks is worth picking that spot. Somewhere in there. All right, this question comes in from Dakota in Missouri. That's confusing. What? You should hear the question from Missouri in Dakota. In Dakota? Uh-oh. That's next. I pre-ordered my UDK and I love it. Oh, thank you, Dakota. In a PPR Dynasty League, would you rather have Carson Wince and David Injoku or Aaron Rogers and Kyle Rudolph. Now, mind you, PPR Dynasty.

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League. Oof. So Wins and Joku are Rogers and Rudolph. Well, I can tell you. I will take Rogers and Rudolph. I can tell you, I have Rogers and Rudolph in our dynasty league. And if someone offered me Wince and Injoku, I would not accept the deal. Who won that league last year? I don't really. I don't remember. Do you remember? Brooks, do you remember who won that league? The dynasty league? No, shut your mouth of Brooks. Sorry, guys. Play along. It stung.

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Yeah. Andy got us. It was me. I'm going to take the Rogers. Andy actually went on. Oh, wait. No, you didn't go undefeated, did you? I lost one game. I lost one game. It's pretty rare to go undefeated. I wanted to stay humble. All right. Mike in Cambridge, England. Failed. Bonjour! Oh, bonjour. Failed. I have the second pick in the first round after a dismal season last year. Yeah.

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I know the consensus is Bell Gurley, maybe AB, but would I be completely insane drafting Sequin with the number two pick? As there is no way he will make it back to me in the second round. Well, yes, you are right. There is no way that will happen. Love the work. I have faith in the UDK and that it will bring me back to the playoffs this year. I'm going to say no. I want to say no. I want to say you're not insane at all, but I'm going to say yes. I'm going to say you're insane for that. And here's why. I believe he said I'm going to say no, but I'm going to say yes. No, I said I want to say no. Oh, okay.

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But I'm going to say yes. I'm going to say yes because you finish number two. I want to say no. But you finish with the second pick and you had a poor season. And I think you just don't want to get too cute with it. Maybe that's what happened last year. You're right. Barclays almost guaranteed to not make it back to you. And we always recommend, look, if you want to take your guy, take your guy. If you can't make it back to you. Just don't take that guy at that spot. Then take other guys. And, you know.

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It's just the first, like the first round, maybe the first two rounds are the only places where reaching on a place. Yes, I disagree. We know that guys are going to bust. We'll have the shows coming up soon where we take a look. And you look at that first round and you go, there's just no way that any of these guys will bust. And then fast forward a year and we'll look back and 50% of them will have busted. So you think take him.

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I'm fine taking Sequin Barclay because you know the volume will be there. You don't take a guy second overall who has serious chops in the passing game to not just feed him until he vomits everywhere on a weekly basis. So I am okay going with Barclay because the volume is safe. Ryan and Buffalo says how comfortable would you be with Jerich McKinnon or he writes Jericho McKinnon as your first back. The mall's coming down.

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If you went wide receiver, wide receiver with your first two picks, I would be fine with it. I'd be 100% fine with Jared. It's a standard. I'm fine with it. Even still. I mean, if you end up going wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver. Usually, if I've done that, it's only because you were able to do that like Julio and Odell Beckham double up because everyone went running back. Wide receivers fell, and that's why I went wide receiver, wide receiver. If I've got those two guys or something like it,

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And I can have Derek McKinnon as my number one. I'm cool with that. Agreed. Shouldn't it be called half PPR, says Kyle in Philadelphia. As we know, PPR stands for points per reception. So whenever I hear somebody refer to half point PPR, what they're really saying is half point point per reception leagues. Yep, full point PPR. As the FF Ballers preferred scoring system, can you enact the universal change?

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that these leagues will henceforth be known as half PPR, or better yet, HPPR. Thank you. Love the show. I love your astute observations, but instead we're going to enact a bit of grace. A little bit of grace because we all talk about different things. You know, I'll meet listeners, and they've so frequently word things that I haven't, I haven't, you know, heard when they talk the numbers. You know, they're like,

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I think this guy is going to be WR 12. And I've never, you know, it's like, oh, you know, the wide receiver 12 or something. And it's like, I can have grace for that. That's cool. I know what you're saying. When I talk about PPR leagues or half point leagues, I try to say the, when I say it the full way, I try to say half point per reception or point per reception as opposed to the way that you said it. But it does happen. And it's just kind of what people are used to. Blame it on the PPR people.

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I mean, take your beef with them because they're the ones who should have said full PPR, but instead they got us saying nonsense like full point PPR. Brooks. It's not my, not my fault. Brooks is a full PPR guy. Has that not changed? It has not changed. No, okay. He's, I mean, by what I'm, Brooks is a full point PPR guy. All right, Justin, in Paradise, Nevada. Oh, consensus rankings.

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hide bold opinions that are have a higher risk. Hold on. Brocks. It's a really good point, Mike in Cambridge. I thought it was paradise. Yeah, I'm going to go to a different question there because I don't understand that one whatsoever. Daniel and Charleston, South Carolina. Any suggestions on software you use when you first created a show for your league? Anything that we can use as a soundboard app?

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That we can manipulate. So they remember that when we started, and for those of you out there who maybe are new listeners, this is a tech question. This is an old school question, too, because when we started this podcast, Mike and I actually began as a podcast for our league only for 12 people. And we used to just once a week go into his office and record a show during lunch and make fun of and mock everybody in our league. It was a great show. And that's how we got our podcasting chops.

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What's the name of the soundboard app? It is called soundboard. There you go. We used to use a sound bite. Yeah, there's a sound bite. We've used quite a few in our time. The least expensive fun one to use would be like soundboard on your OS devices. Yes. And as far as recording software. Audacity's free, right? Audacity is free. You can check that one out. We use...

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We use logic, but they all do the same things nowadays. It's whatever you're comfortable using. And audacity at the price point of free may be what you are most comfortable using. You know, Brooks had the audacity to put in that question despite the fact that it was unreadable. Can you believe that? Full point PPR. Oh, what a buffoon. We love you, Brooks. I got rid of the extra wording in there. Oh, is it readable now?

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I think so. Let's go back. I really hope it's not. Justin in Paradise, consensus rankings hide bold opinions that have a higher risk, but also a higher reward as they are averaged. Okay. Could it be better to follow one of your individual rankings instead? Yeah, follow my. And then asks whose rankings would be better. You should use my rankings. I guess use whoever's, whoever was more accurate on the season, according to the fantasy pros expert rankings on the season.

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Are we talking historically, like over the last few years? No, just last year. Just last year. Why you got to be a butt snack? Here's whose rankings you should actually go with. Your own. This is why I think consensus is actually the best to go with is we do have kind of differing opinions on certain guys, but it actually makes for really good rankings to use where you are using your own, not just our numbers.

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We lay it out. We're just different cannonballs. You fire the cannon. Yeah, we, we, we tear-based things out in the ultimate draft kit. We, you know, have write-ups on every player, videos on everybody. So you can get the info. But at the end of the day, you're the one that is making the call. And you can make calls better than we can. I mean, you know your league. We're just different grades of gasoline. You drive the car. Right. Exactly. How many more are you guys? Also, I'm premium.

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Honest. Well, my car. It specifically says do not use premium. Yeah. I'm serious. So what I want to drive? What I was going to say is back many, many moons ago when I didn't make my own full rankings and I had the people who I trusted, I would go through their list. I would make my own tiers and I would completely eliminate guys. Just say, I'm not drafting this player. So Jason is right. Dude.

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We've laid the foundation for you. Get in there and do, and you got to move. Do the dirty work. Well, it's not the dirty work. It's the fun work. Do the clean work. Yeah, he's just, he's doing feng shui arranging things in the room. It's all there, though. The couch is there. That's what this show is all about. A chair. I know we don't muse on that enough, but we, we made this show so that we could be, you know, the other three guys at the table with you, sharing our opinions. We're the equipment manager. You're the ball player.

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