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Fantasy Football 2018 - Player Price Check + WR Revelations

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Mike's very energetic responses are all very inaccurate. Tariqon's 606. Yeah, I knew. What? I knew because PPR, I thought he was in the eight. He's 806. He's 806 in standard. Holy crap. And I can't. He's not my favorite sleeper anymore. Let me read to you players that are going around him and maybe it'll change your mind. You don't have to. I want all of them. Well, do you want Tavon Coleman or do you want Tari Cohen?

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Coleman, yeah. Okay, Coleman's going two picks ahead of Cohen. Coleman's going two picks ahead of Cohen. Carlos Hyde or Tyre Cohen? Hyde. Oh, yeah, probably. Hyde's going four picks behind Cohen in PPR leagues, which I would take Cohen over Hyde in PPR league. Hyde is going to drop even further. Hyde's going to become a value. We'll find out. Chris Thompson or Tariq Cohen? Chris Thompson. I would take Cohen. I would take.

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I think I would take Thompson. Wow. Okay. So this is why you believe he used later. Marlon Mack or Tariq Cohen? Well, you know, I'm taking Marlon Mack. I would take Cohen. How about Marshaun Lynch? Marsha. And I would take Cohen. Marsha's going around behind Therick Cohen and PPR leagues. Yeah. So the hype is real, Mike. Someone's listening. Apparently here. PSA to everyone who has listened already to this episode. No, don't talk up Randall Cobb.

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And Geronimo Allison, okay? Shut. You're talking to yourself. Shut your mouth. No, I know. I'm just saying. You talk to the millions of people. We're talking, but you, you guys listening, you, you, you, we have a, uh, enough people listening where it'll raise the ADP a little, but don't tell your friends. You are telling people not to listen to, not to spread our show around. That, yeah, look, I want footland titles. I want our winners, our listeners to be winners. So, you know, do what you.

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Do what you got to do. But I'm saying keep them as values. Because early in the offseason, the dinosaur hunter looked great. By? And he's risen out of control. He's going to hammer this. By this? Yeah, his references are from the Turok. Cretaceous. Tarrac Cohen. So look, Tarrot Cohen is the worst nickname that's ever been made on this show. And you know it. I love it. You know it.

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Sixth round is... I was saying, Mike, based on your reaction, you wouldn't touch him with a 10-foot pole at the 6-year? I am very excited for him, but he is a... I designate him as a sleeper for a reason that the potential is there. Is the gap between him and Corey Clement four rounds like it is right now? Because Clement is a PPR 10th round pick. I see them very close. I see them in the same type of a tier. You got a guy last year. Look, when you watched the film...

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Turok Cohen was really hot. And he almost full spit tank. Turok Cohen looked great. But this is a guy who didn't get 400 yards on the ground. He didn't get 400 yards through the air. Now he's got a new offensive coordinator coming who's saying things about how Jordan Howard, you know, is going to be used different in different games. And that means a tool like Turok Cohen is going to be really.

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valuable to an offensive coordinator. We got to go to the judge on this one. Oh, please. He's got to love it. Judge Diomani. Get it out of here. No. Tarak, the dinosaur hunts are coming and stay. I will, I refuse to listen to the judge. I'll never bring them up again. Put me in jail. All right. Will Fuller, guys. Last year, Will Fuller was the best wide receiver in the history of the world for about a week and two. No, he was a touchdown machine.

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I think he was on pace for 700 touchdowns after a couple weeks. Yeah. So I have not seen Will Fuller go high in drafts, the ones that I'm surprised. I am too. I think he's actually might be a value. So I'm going to guess since I'm going first here. I'm going to guess rather low. This is PPR. I'm going to guess that he is ninth round. I'm going double digit for him. I don't blame him. I'm going to put him at the 10.06. You're both very wrong. What is he rising? He is the pick.

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directly behind Tariq Cohen right now. What is happening? Holy moly. Will Fuller is in. Now, if I read the names around, maybe you'll change your mind. That is shocking. Corey Davis, Devin Funches, Pierre Garsohn. Of those guys, I would take Garsohn.

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I would take all of those guys above Will Fuller. Yeah, you know, the thing is, is it really comes down to roster construction at that point because Fuller represents an electric flex option. I don't want to rely on because of his volume that won't be there. But, man, he's a guy that could put up two touchdowns at any game. 612 in standard. So he goes down to almost the seventh round in standard. He's in the Chris Hogan. He goes down in his standard? He does. Chris Hogan.

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I'm guessing that wide receivers in general get pulled up in a PPR format. So Will Fuller, his first four games of the season, which were his four games with Deshaun Watson, wide receiver seven, wide receiver six, wide receiver 17, wide receiver three. That would be why. Everyone is bought into Deshaun Watson. That's an egregious statement.

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There are many, many people who are bought into Deshawn Watson. You can tell from his 80 peak as the second quarterback off the board. Oh, man. Can I just interrupt you real quick? Yeah. I'm pretty sure I heard a great word come out of your mouth on accident. Referring to Deshaun Watson's 80 peak, which is perfect. He has. He's at his 80 peak right now. But anyways, I love you. You're welcome for birthing that one.

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Trademark. FF.F. Hitman. ADP. But just so six round is, I think that's fine because that's about where you're, you're starting to take some shots. Yeah, I don't have a problem with those guys behind him. Look at, look at the difference here. Tariq Cohen. I don't, oh, man, I already messed up. Yes. Oh, they're, they're happy. When the judge rules, the judge rules. All right. Well, people go to Twitter. Vindicate me.

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I don't think it's going to happen. In 64 box covers of Turok showing up. Yeah. In 64 was great. It was pretty amazing. But, but, you know, what is the chance, percentage chance that he could finish as an RB1 versus Will Fuller having the opportunity to finish as an RB1 or as a wider receiver 1? I think that the ceiling is much higher.

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on Fuller. Yes, I completely agree. And so if you want to take that shot, even though that's higher than I would want to draft him, because I'm probably still looking volume if we're in the sixth, seventh round and less touchdown upside guys. But I don't have a problem doing that at all. I mean, if he comes back to form with Watson, then, you know, you've got a real 17 yards of catch, often touchdown scoring freak out there. Okay. All right. Let's talk about.

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Another wide receiver, Jameson Crowder. I don't think people know how to think about them. PPR League, where do you think Jameson Crowder is currently going in drafts? I think that people are recovering from Crowder not really coming through this past season, but in a PPR, you still have to be interested. I'm going to slot him behind Will Fuller based off of his sixth round draft price, which is bananas. But not too far. I'm going to go.

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7-11. It's going to go. Oh, man. That's a really good spot because I wasn't sure. I was going to put him right around there. I'm going to take the under. I'll go 7-12. He's going to 906 right now. So would you would you rather have James and Crowder at 906 or Will Fuller at, you know, back of the sixth? It's probably going to be crowded because in the sixth, you mentioned some running backs when we were talking about Tariq Cohen.

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who weren't Tariko and that I would like to have. So I would pair Crowder with one of those running backs rather than the running backs going in the ninth with Will Fuller. I would say it's a roster construction thing as do you want a volume guy versus a high upside guy? But in general, I'm going to take those three round differences is a pretty big gap. All right. I'm going to read you some names around Jamison Crowder. Crowder. Crowder. Crowder.

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Markey's Goodwin or James and Crowder? Ooh. Crowder. I think I'm going to take Goodwin. That's close. It's definitely close. Randall Cobb. Oh, there's my boy. Yeah, I would take the upside of Cobb. Eat me some Cobb salad. Cooper cup. Cup. Cup and Cobb, by the way. The old cup and Cobb. You put the Cobb salad in a cup. Cup and Cobb are back to back. Benjamin or Crowder? Benjamin.

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Oh, yeah. I would probably take the Benjamin there. I feel like we all want to disparage Kelvin Benjamin because he's been such a lumbering, injured guy. He's like an ant. But the reality is. He's like one of the ints. Yeah. Is that Lord of the Rings? From Lord of the Rings? Yeah, because he's a big lumbering, you know. Tree. Tree. But the reality is. He's got big branches. He's the only guy there. I mean, we talk about Charles Clay being necessary. And Charles Clay.

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I mean, he makes Calvin Benjamin look like Tyreek Hill. All right. Quarterback, Kirk Cousins. Ooh. PPR ADP for Kurt Cousins. I'm going to go 701. I'm going to go higher than that. I'm going to go 603. 804. What? 804. I thought there was a block of quarterbacks going right in that sixth round. I guess I'm thinking of standard and they just get pushed down. The quarterback's ahead of him?

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Yeah, he's got to be like quarterback five or six off the draft board, though, right? Let me take a quick look at that. He's going right after some of the bigger names that you would expect. Cousins is currently the eighth quarterback off the board. Wow, really? A gap between Breeze right now. Newton and Breeze are both seventh round picks. Cousins and Garoppolo.

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our eighth round picks. And I would take Cousins by a country mile over Jimmy Garoppolo. Cousins is probably, based on that ADP, would be the first quarterback I would be looking at. You know, anything higher than the eighth round, I'm not really looking. And to me, Cousins is still a tier above some of those other late round guys that I like. You know, I like Stafford. I like Rivers. I can get them a couple rounds later, but I see Stafford still cut above that, so I might consider it. Right now.

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Cousins goes, and then Garoppolo, and then a round later, Gough, and behind him, Stafford. Beware. Beware of the Gman in Jimmy Garoppel and Jared Gough. Jordan Reed. We'll wrap it up with Jordan Reed. We'll get into some mailback. Jordan Reed, where do you think his average job position is? It doesn't change because of OTAs in training camp, and if he looks healthy.

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Yeah, it'll definitely change. The problem is I'm not sure that he is fully healthy yet. So I'm going to guess that he is in that seventh round, but I went first last time. I think he's actually behind that. I'm going to go 804. 712. 8.09. Okay. He's going in a range, though, very interestingly, where no tight-ins go.

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Right now, Trey Burton goes 710, okay? Wow, Trey Burton's going ahead of Jordan Reed now. Yeah, Trey Burton is now ahead of Jordan Reed. Yeah, definitely should be. And then Jordan Reed's at 8.09 and you don't get another tight end off the board until 1009. Where is? Two rounds later, George Kittle, Tyler Eifford. Oh, man. So that means that. Would you rather have Eifford in the 11th round where he's currently going, or Jordan Reed? In a PPR? 8th.

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I'll take the upside of Jordan Reed. I think I would too. I would as well. Where was Rudolph going then ahead of Trey Boo-boo, I assume? Kyle Rudolph is going at 703. Delaney Walker, 705, Trey Burton, 710. Okay, so Mr. Kyle Rudolph man crush over here, PPR, it's the seventh round. You're taking a tight end. Are you taking Rudolph over Trey Burton?

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I am taking Rudolph over Trey Burton. I like Trey Burton a lot, but that's yet to be seen, never shown it in as far as being the primary weapon. And we haven't seen the new Bears offense. I project him high. I like him, but I'm going to take Burton in hand. Burton in hand. That's what I heard to do. All right. Let's get into the mailbag. Mailbag. Mail bag. It's called doubling, Mike.

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Yeah, but you got to get stronger, thicker, better. You got to get in pitch then. You know, when you double it, you do the exact same thing. Are you trying to contend that you were in pitch for the opening of the show? Because it sounded like you were, like you had popped out of a garbage can screaming. Well, here's the thing is I live in a garbage can. No, I'm over here like an angelic choir. Right. Just streaming forth the lovely docile tones of the mailbag and you open it up.

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