Fantasy Football 2018 - Player Price Check + WR Revelations

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Mike is so cool. It's beyond me. He's just so cool. All right. By the way, the average draft position list that I'm using today is from fantasy football calculator.com. Always interesting. As we evolve through the off season, we're in June now, and more and more mock drafts are taking place. You now have the rookies that are establishing themselves more and more in these mock drafts and where people are comfortable taking them.

You know, we took a bunch of rookies in our mock draft on the show last week. But I'm curious about, I've got eight guys, and I want to see if you guys can, first of all, guess about where they're going and then talk about their value. So let's start with a wide receiver. His team has had a lot of change this offseason, and we're talking about Tyreek the freak. Tyreek Hill.

Where do you think Tyreek Hill is going? You have the addition of Sammy Walker. Too high. Really? Really? That's your opinion on Tyree Kill. Really? That is going too high. I've seen him go usually in the third as high as the second. I'm going to, I'm going to guess back of the second, like 212. Okay. And if he's going near there, it's too high for my blood. And now is that simply based off of risk aversion with Pat Mahomes? It's a triple threat.

of Pat Mahomes coming in, so we don't know, you know, how he's going to be used. The offensive coordinator did change. Granted Andy Reid is the Office of Mastermind, but that's, and then the third one, which is actually the biggest one, Sammy Watkins is there. There has not been another wide receiver worthy of targeting for Kansas City, but. But, Mike, what do you think? Where do you think he's going? And I just want to know, now this is PPR, ADPPA, I grabbed. Okay. That is important. Standard. Yep. Okay. Stand by it.

Where did you say? So Jason's official answer for this game of where exactly are they being drafted is too hot. That is my answer for Tyree Kill, but specifically, I guess the 212. No matter what. That's right. That's how I play games. Mike. Is this Price is right? Action. Oh, you don't want to like. No. All right. Okay. Okay. I'm going to go. I don't think he's going as high as the second round, especially in a PPR. He's still valuable. He finishes the wide receiver seven.

Last year in half point. I'm going to go right around the 304. 304. So, Mike, you are the closest there. I thought I hit it. I was like, well, are you serious? 305. So Tyreek is going in the third round. And let me give you some names. He's going behind wide receivers, AJ Green and Mike Evans, significantly behind them. Those are both kind of tail into the second round right now.

Hill is in the middle of the third, and then after Tyreek Hill and Jason, this is what matters. Jason, would you take these receivers ahead of Tyreek Hill? I know the answer to the first one. Adam Thielen. Yes, 100%. Yeah, I would take Thielen over. T.Y. Hilton. If Andrew Luck is healthy, then yes. Otherwise, no, that's kind of a doesn't count. That's so close. I'm not going to doubt.

Tyreek Hill and his ability. I get that Sammy Watkins is there, especially he rode in on his golden chariot carried by four very strong men. He was making so much freaking money there. But he's just so successful.

at what he does. Yes, I agree. It's being very fast. And he's, he's not just fast. I think he's a good route runner and he's good hands, too. I like Tyreek Hill as a player. I really do. This is not any, this is an anti-Tyriek Hill. This is anti-banking on the situation he's been in the last two years. The situation has changed, and so I am. I think that you're just, your deep burning passion and desire for Sammy Watkins to actually be good is clouding.

What Tyreek Hill has done his first two years in the league. You don't need to disparage Tyreek Hill to prop up Sammy Watkins' potential. Thank you. Thank you, Ann. But you are. You're choosing to. And Hill went from 9.7 a catch in kind of a gadgety roll back in 2016, up to 15.8 per catch last year. He had only 14 more receptions and yet put up 500.

more yards. Yeah, there could be some regression there. 1183 on the yardage on 75 receptions for Tyree Kiel. So the nice thing about the, I guess the counter Jason story to the narrative there is that you're not taking a player that's in the 90 to 100 to 110 catch range. Sure. The target count for Mike Evans, his lone season, with no one around him in Tampa.

where we saw that number change a lot from a target standpoint. I tend to think that I would take Adam Thielen ahead of him, but I'm not sure anybody else in this group. Doug Baldwin, Amari Cooper. Yeah, I would take Doug Baldwin and not Amari Cooper. Okay. Baldwin, I would because of all the targets that have vacated Seattle's offense. They're all going to Brandon Marshall now, Mike. Yeah, yeah. Are you comparing? That just means they're going to Baldwin on fourth down. Adam Thielen.

sitting there at a nice 27% target share, which is very, very nice compared to Tyreek Hill. Tyreek Hill's 19.4. Here's what I think. I think that taking Tyreek Hill at 306 or 305 right now represents a pretty significant tear break between the guys going before him, Adams, Allen, Green, Evans. Then you've...

Right now you're seeing a break with some running backs and a couple quarterbacks go. And then you have a brand new tier of wide outs that are going Hill, Thielen, Hilton, Baldwin, Cooper. It seems foolish to probably be at the front end of that wide receiver group and grab Hill because even if you like him, I don't think the justification of liking him more than those other guys would push you to the top of that list when you could settle in on somebody else. It's a fair point. The man was given a pretty tall task.

this past year. Be the number one. It was Tyree Kill. We've seen you have success as the gadget player, getting the sweeps and just the nine route. Now you're the number one. Jeremy Macklin, you're gone. And he stepped up to the challenge. And so I just am not doubting what Tyree Kill can do. And the thing is, you know, for those of the listeners that have listened for more than a year, we, you know, they recognized last year I was all about Tyree Kill. We as a group.

You know, we bought into his talent and the volume would be there. So this is not me saying, I don't believe in Terry Kill. I just don't, I don't want to bank on that volume. Sammy, you feel like it will take that much away? I do. I think Sammy Watkins, I think that there is a world where Sammy Watkins actually finishes as the number one wide receiver in Kansas City. That's not. Oh, yeah, Tariq.

Bringing it back. And that's not me saying that Sammy will do that. I'm not projecting that in my rankings. I've got Tyree Kill finishing as the wider super one. But if at the end of 2018, Sammy Watkins was the number one target, that wouldn't, I wouldn't be like, you couldn't have seen this. I've got a crazy question. Then we'll move on to another player. These two players are going two picks apart right now. Who would you rather flex? Tyree Kill or Travis Kelsey then?

Oh, that's very interesting. Because I feel like all of your Watkins arguments would apply to. Yeah, no, I think I'd rather have Travis Kelsey. I think his role is more secure. Interesting, huh? Yeah. I'd take Tyreek hell. This is a week-to-week flex question? Yeah. Because, just because I want to. Then if it's a week-to-week flex question, then yes, it's going to be Tyree Kil because in my flex, just the way I've lined up and built my team.

That's where I put my nitro. Yeah, he is your nitro. So I hit the turbo button because the rest of my team is solid. Before we move on to the rest of the ADP price check, I want to thank today's sponsor Omaha Steaks. You're trying to find the perfect gift for Father's Day. Look no further than Omaha Steaks.

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Is that a Turok reference? Yes, it is. Oh, that's so bad. It's great. Toree. I'm living it. I love it. It's closer than, it's closer than I gave a credit for. I remember that game. Yeah. With something new might have just been born, gentlemen. One part, first person shooter, one part dinosaurs. Are you kidding me? No, it was all about Turok, too, with the monkey tag. Shout out to my people. You know what I'm talking about. Goodness. That turned. All right, let's talk about Tarek, the dinosaur hunter. Tarek Cohen.

Where do you think he's going in PPR ADPs? And when you look at standard, I'll tell you this, your standard to PPR difference for Cohen is one of the bigger ones out there. It's a couple rounds. Wow. It makes sense because you would want him more in a PPR setting. Oh, yeah. Yeah. About two rounds. Man, Mike, I went for his last round. Yeah, yeah. Take. Tarik is one of our favorite sleepers of this fantasy football season, but I think that he's still, you can still get him a little bit.

cheap. I'm going to take, I'm going to say his ADP price check is at the 907. I think it's got to be higher than that, especially after Andy said that there's a big disparity between PPR and standard. Yeah, it's undrafted. Yes. No, I think it's standard. He's still being drafted. I'm going to, I'm going to take him, man, I was going to go seven, but I feel like, I'm going to go eight. I'm going to go eight. I'm going to go eight. Oh, five. Okay. 805. And I.