NFC East Breakdown + Late Round Gold

Could be the Kiki QT PPR producer for the Redskins. I don't want to touch any of them. Yeah. What about Jordan Reed? I'm interested. The rule is not a rule anymore. Yeah. It's one of those players that I will not be able to.

quit ever. He's free. He's a free tight-in shot. He's productive when he's on the field. Yeah, but he doesn't have a quarterback. Look, Dwayne Haskins, maybe you believe in Dwayne Haskins. You think he's got a bright future. He doesn't strike anyone as the guy that's going to come in and light the league on fire year one. What if his case? What if it's Case Keenum, though, for the first half, Jason? You love Case Keenum. I assume it is Case Keenum to start week one as of right now. And-

And Case Keenham doesn't do it for me for Jordan Reed. I'm racking my brain here thinking, is there a single Washington Redskin player that I would draft in fantasy football? And I think the answer is probably no. Maybe Chris Thompson with my last pick, but I don't feel great about that either. Adrian Peterson at the end of the 10th round? With the clenched teeth and your eyes close? Yeah, sure. If I have to.

Like if this is like... So no. The answer to that is no. This is a team where because of the quarterback murkiness, the rookie coming in, probably after a few games, Case Keenham, you know, is, you know, a lame duck here. All the running backs, all the injuries, no great wide receivers. I just want to avoid this roster. A certain teams. A fantasy wasteland. Yeah. I don't want to play. I don't want to play here. Jordan Reed.

Through the first 11 games of the season was averaging over seven targets a game, almost five receptions in nearly 50 yards. With Alex Smith. You have to see, I'd feel a lot better with Alex Smith. Yeah, if he was there, I would be interested in Jordan Reed. Okay. There are, it's just strange because Greg Olsen, Jordan Reed, Tyler Eiffert, Delaney Walker. Those were four of the most heralded, tight-in names of the past, like, five years. And they're all basically going to be free this year. So people can.

take their pick of the kind of maimed and injured has-beens at the titan position, maybe steal some value. At least if you don't, you can drop them and sign somebody else. But I think you're right. I mean, this is one of the wide receiver cores you're avoiding, one of the offenses you're avoiding in fantasy. I, yeah. If I'm with Jason, I'm probably not drafting anyone. If I do, it would be Jordan Reed. And keep your eye on the tea leaves, though, for Darius Geis. Even if you don't draft them, saying,

Watch the usage. Watch the snap count for him because if you see it trending up. Starting to change. Maybe you go after him. Even if the production is not there yet, you just see the winds of change happening for him. If he's healthy, he is very, very good. He is a very good running back. Yeah, yeah. The Giants at 5 and 11, let's talk about the Giants who start the season.

on the road against Dallas last season 24th in rushing yards per game. But Saigon was a monster because he caught so many passes. Yes. Last year 11th in passing yards per game. That's an important number to me because we're going to talk about what could happen on this offense over the course of the year and what that means to the fantasy options. And that's because of the quarterback position and the number six overall pick Daniel Jones.

Does he take over? Eli Manning. We'll talk about that. Obviously, Sequin, at running back, right now he's the 101 in most fantasy drafts. That's his average draft position. Wide receivers, you've got Sterling Shepard, who is re-signed. You've got Golden Tate. Both players being drafted, Shepard in the 8th, and the 10th. I don't know if I understand that. And then Evan Ingraham is a sixth round draft pick, the athletic tight end, high-yardage tight end. And look, there are...

Odell Beckham Jr's targets to go around. I am so afraid of Daniel Jones taking over on this offense. I think that's one of the biggest storylines for fantasy owners because with Eli Manning at the helm, he threw the ball. He may not have thrown every ball in the right place to the right team, but they average 250 plus yards a game, which means with no Odell Beckham Jr., Golden Tate.

Sterling Shepard, Evan Ingram, somebody's going to have value in the passing game there with Eli. But what if it's not Eli? Yeah, that's a big worry. I mean, look, Sequin is the 101 for most people. Even in high-stake money leagues, the lowest in the last month that he's gone is two. So, I mean, you're talking about... It's hard to craft a narrative where Seekwon...

right where he completely busts because you already saw him on a bad team he's so involved in the passing game he's actually he has more points per play when they were down he actually scored more fantasy points in the games that they lost so that narrative is is a little bit busted but at the same time if daniel jones comes in you already have sayquan scoring almost five points less per game when odal beckham was out than when he was in this is a really weird situation because i feel like the offense is going to be

terrible, but I actually like a lot of the pieces. I don't know how to reconcile that. Evan Ingram is, you know, when he's been in games without O'Dell Beckham, he's been an absolute top end tight end. He could be relied on. I don't think it's outside of the realm of possibility that he would be the number one target. I don't think this offense is going to be terrible. I'm going to go on record and say that. With Eli Manning at quarterback, I don't think it's going to be a terrible offense. I think it'll be a top 15 offense. Top 15. Wow.

Yeah, I think what- That's more than just not awful. That's a good offense. That would be top half, yes. But I'm saying from not awful to good, that's a few steps, my friend. Yeah, I believe that. I believe that you will have more. Evan Ingram, you can start. We just talked about Washington, the wasteland of fantasy. You can start Sequin. You can start Ingram. I'd be flipping Tate and Shepard in PPR leagues from where they're going in drafts. I'd rather have Tate than Shepard.

But I think you might be able to start both players with Eli Manning. I mean, if that's the case, if you're right, they would end up having to be top end or top half to have four startable assets in their game. No chance at top 10, but inside the top 15. I believe in your defense here, I believe in Pat Schumer. I think he's actually a really good offensive mind. I think he's going to do what's best for his personnel.

And he does have some weapons. The whole issue here for the Giants is Eli Manning. Is he getting older and worse? He's not rushing into retirement. His words. Because he has clearly not rushed into retirement. I believe you walk into retirement. Maybe be rolled into retirement. Be rolled. Pick one. Shepard Tate. Shepard. I want the down the field option. Sure. I think Tate.

All right. Is that, Jason, do you go Shepard in the 8th versus Tate in the 10th? Because that's where they're being drafted, or are you saying just heads up? No, just heads up. I think Tate, because it's such a close coin flip, especially if you're in a PPR. Garbage rounds already. Right, but I mean, the 10th round, I'd rather wait two rounds and get the coin flip there. All right. I don't think we need to talk a lot about Sequin. We kind of brought him up. You know who it is.

The big point that Jason brought up, past catching running backs, you don't need to pay attention to game scripts. I mean, past catching running backs are on the field. They're great in negative game scripts, just like they're great in positive games scripts because they catch so many passes. It's also really good. He is excellent. He is a super freak athlete. If you don't remember that, his combine metrics were broke the combine scoring. He's basically.

You know, he's like, oh, he's a 99th. I think he's 100th percent. He's just, he is the, he is the most amazing specimen. Right. At running back that has ever been. So that helps. To refer to your game splits with Evan Engram, just so people get the context, Jay. In, in a PPR scoring format, he is nearly five points better.

per game when Odo Beckham is off the field. The only thing I would hesitate there is usually in those games where you've lost O'Dell Beckham, you didn't have the replacement of Golden Tate. You didn't plan for it. Right. Now he had to step up into a role. And now the question is coming into 2019. Is he going to be designed into that role? Because if he is, Evan Ingram could absolutely be this year's George Kittle in the sense that, you know, he...

leads the tight ends in yards if he becomes the number one target. I don't think it's going to happen, but that's not outside the realm of possibility. You're 100% right, because last year we saw both. We saw what it looks like when Ingram's heavily involved, and we saw what it was like for him to be always open and never involved. That was so frustrated. Mike would watch the game, and you'd be watching this streaking Evan Ingram, which is frightening. No, it's frightening. It's glorious. He can streak all he wants. All over the field.

And always open, but not game planned into the offense. Also recovering from injury a little bit. And over the last five games, and this is the time when fantasy owners sometimes forget what happens because either you're out or you're paying attention to a narrow set of players. You're not watching Week 16 and 17 as closely because you're not worried about waivers or picking up guys or trading for them. But Angram was on fire to end this season.

Yeah, in our Scott Fishbowl league that is a tight-in premium, we decided to take Evan Ingram over O.J. Howard and take him pretty early. So, I mean, obviously, he has the talent. He has the capability. He's got a good coach. It's just will Eli look to him first. In the NFL next gen stats, he is the absolute leader in average separation of four points. I saw that. Of 4.4. Meanwhile, it.

There's only two guys who average more than four yards of separation, and Evan Engram is number one. He's a first round pick, first round pedigree, athletic monster. Step one, get separation. Step two, Eli, throw it to the open player. How are you that open all the time and you're not getting the ball in every play? It's just such a mismatch.

Yes. Can we trade him to the Saints? Oh, my goodness. Saints already have their Evan Ingram. Yeah, they can get, but they can do better. They can do Evan Ingram. We've got a couple minutes. Let's jump into the mailbag. Mailbag. All right. Jackson and South Carolina writes in, by the way, if you have a question, go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. That's what he wrote in? Yep, that's what he said. He said, by the way, he said, here's my question. How do I write in to the mailback? Go to the website.

Click to submit a question button. Dial a voicemail hotline 302-464 TFFB. Here we go. Jackson says, who do you think we'll be getting the bulk of the carries in Tampa Bay? And who would you rather have in a PPR format? Would you rather have Rojo or Barber before you answer? Okay, dokey. Sorry. Oh, that's fine. I want to know the rules. The suspense is killing me. You're going to answer it. But I want to just say something that I, that we know.

Barber and Rojo are both in our ultimate draft kit. I just want to throw that out there. Rojo's in the sleepers. Barbers in the values. Now you can answer. I would go with Peyton Barber. I believe that he is actually the better back. I think he will win the bulk of the timeshare there and everything out of Tampa Bay, even though people have been singing some praises of...

Rojo, most people still believe that Peyton Barber will be the main guy, the first guy, the leader of the timeshare. Do you agree with that, Mike? Peyton Barber. Okay. Here's a voicemail question. Hey, ballers. It's Steve calling from Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Oh, bonjour. I know you guys have talked extensively about Todd Gurley draft position and redraft leagues. I'm just wondering where you would be comfortable taking him in a dynasty startup draft.

Hope you hear from me, guys. Love the show. First of all, I'm sick to my stomach when I think about drafting Todd Gurley in a dynasty. You asked specifically, where would you be comfortable drafting him? And the answer is the 12th round in terms of comfort. I'm not going to be comfortable drafting Gurley at all in a dynasty. Because the nature of Todd Gurley's situation is the least comfortable one that I have...

that I can recollect in a fantasy football league over the last few years. Best player ever in fantasy over two years. Also, what in the world's wrong with his knee? As the Todd Gurley owner in our main dynasty league, I can tell you the comfort level is imagine that you. One ply. You took your boxer briefs.