Jacobs Fallout, Preseason Takeaways + Mailbag - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/31

So there are draft spots available for each and every one of you, the fourth through the eighth, all of those days, multiple draft spots, free for every single foot clam member. Go to megalobole.com if you want to play in that tournament. I'm so excited for drafts. I haven't really, like we're in a slow draft right now that we're doing like a sleeper chop league. I am really looking forward to drafts. And thank goodness, based on the news we're about to get to, that we have not drafted any of our main leagues yet. Can I talk about this?

I posted, so Genti was two weeks ago the news where we didn't know what was wrong in the middle of people's drafts. And then Jacobs was the news this weekend, which we're about to talk about. So I posted like, hey, just a good reminder to draft as late as you want. I was met with a surprising amount of people who have weighed in and said that I am unbelievably wrong and the most exciting thing is to draft early. And then...

get the news and like ride on the be able to mock people when people get hurt so here's here's why you're getting that andy 11 divided by 12 is 91% so 91% of people who did their draft are happy that they didn't get that landmine but that's dumb that's really objectively stupid I was so shocked they were like this is the worst advice ever draft early and then have the fun of the surprise I think if you're in a hardcore league and that's how y'all like

to handle the business. That's fine. But we're talking to like a lot of real, just casual players who we want them to have fun playing fantasy football. You know what's not fun? When your second round pick moments after you draft him, you find out that they're like essentially suspended. Hey, that guy just did that. Yeah, I took Jacobs in the chopped league. So him and I are already on the blog. You're both shot. Yeah, I thought that was surprising. So let's talk news.

News and notes from around the league. So the headline news that took place yesterday morning was that the NFL has placed Packers running back Josh Jacobs on the commissioner's exempt list. Moments before that news broke, we got word that the Packers had traded for running back. Caleb Johnson. Which.

That made so much more sense as soon as the Jacobs news. Oh, Chase is just sitting covering his face. So he can't, he can't show this smile. Caleb Johnson is a hacker. Your eyes are giving you away. He will be a depth addition behind an injury prone Marshawn, Marshawn, and Chris Brooks. He's a loser.

He is going to a... Caleb Johnson is a nothing loser burger. You don't believe anything you're saying? I absolutely know it. I don't have to believe it. You don't even believe it. But I am just telling you, man, in a world where he redeems. Yeah.

No pants, no shirt. No service. I will be living birthday style the rest of my days. You're down big, aren't you? You're down big. Listen, here's the story with Josh Jacobs. And we reacted very quickly yesterday. The three of us updated UDK rankings for Marshawn Lloyd for the entire Packers for Josh Jacobs. The NFL, and again, this is not just, I mean, we do not know the outcome. Let me start.

Correct. We do not know how long he'll be on the commissioner's exemplist. We do not know what information the NFL became privy to to put him on the list. You can go to Drew Davenport and read everything that he has said. What we know is this. The charges came out against Josh Jacobs and they were reduced charges from the original arrest. Then the NFL went and put him on the commissioner's exemplist a few days later. We set on this show.

that if this video became public and it was indicting of Josh Jacobs, regardless of the charges, the names of the charges, anything of that nature, he might never play a game of football again. You know, is it a coincidence that the NFL suspended him, put him on, or I should say, sorry, put him on the commissioners list a few days later? I don't think it's a coincidence. I think that there's more information that they have from the investigation.

There have been players like Julius Peppers who were on the commissioner's exemplist for 47 days, Alvin Camara for a shorter period of time. There are also players that have been put on the commissioner's exemplist, and they don't play football ever again. Mike made the point, like if he misses the year on the commissioner's exemplist, he may start next year on a six-game suspension, and then you're older? Does anybody want you in the league? There is a, I mean, I don't even want to say non-zero.

greater than 10% chance that Jacobs never plays again. What the living nightmare. Yes, you saw it. You took Batman down? I'm Batman. I'm so sorry. We're talking about the most serious thing. And then I turn around and Jason Moore. Is that a Hall of Fame bus? There's a bust of Jason Moore. If you didn't see the live show, he inducted himself into the Hall of Fame and then now replace Batman on the set. Wait.

Why are you taking it? Oh, wait. He's putting his jacket on. Oh, okay. Yeah, the gold jacket had to go. I'm sorry. I had not seen it. All right. Hall of Famer. I really should have not brought this up at this moment. No, no, no, no. It's good. Anyways, let's continue on serious business. I'm not giving you another day of this. Jacobs is on the commissioners list. We've seen, we've seen players get put on it for a very short amount of time. We've seen players put on it that essentially took the place of their suspension.

And like the time, it was then, okay, this is time served. The minimum suspension in the NFL for a domestic violence situation is six games. The case, so we're just trying to lay out the facts. The case was scheduled to be heard in court, talking about Jacobs, in November. So we, like, according to Davenport, that's going to be irrelevant to the situation. Oh, okay. So, so, yeah, I mean, the.

I think what his belief is and what makes logical sense is that whatever this video that has not, as of this recording yet, hit the open market, the guess is that perhaps the NFL has seen it and they know what's coming. And therefore they're getting ahead of it, putting them on the exempt list. If that video happens a la Ray Rice, it could be the situation where we say,

People don't want to deal with it. He'll be gone this year. He'll start the season suspended at an older age and be done. However, on the other side, so Connor Allen put out a tweet just showing some of the commissioner's exempt list history. AP got 15, it was on there for 15 games. Greg Hardy, 15 games. Ruben Foster 5. Cream Hunt, five games.

Gibral Pepper seven games. So there is a wide range of outcomes here. I've also seen people say, is Josh Jacobs worth a last round pick? Like, is it even? And I would say, sure. I think at that point, we don't know enough right now and your last round picks are so low hit rates that should. You know that if Josh Allen, Josh Jacobs plays football as a starting running back for the Packers this year, is going to be valuable. Yeah, but then he's on your, I mean, how long is he going to?

Are you okay with Josh Jacobs taking real estate on your bench? Because you can't IR him. At least for right now, while we gather more information, I am. So we went in. Marshawn Lloyd is kind of in that RB 24 to 30 range right now in our rankings with plenty of variability based on Jacobs availability. He has first round talent. He's got the ability. He hasn't stayed healthy. It's a good offense. So, you know, people that were, I mean, I had.

I had a funny story from a friend who was in the middle of their draft when this news broke. They saw my video that I released on our Instagram, just sharing my immediate thoughts. They played it too loud from their seat. And the next person in the draft, the head of him, drafted Marchand Lloyd instantaneously right ahead of them in the draft. So, yeah, it's, you know. So, yeah, Marshaun Lloyd is slotting in around.

I have him about running back 24 trying to figure it out. The role is so incredibly valuable. Like if Marshawn Lloyd is as good as the Green Bay Packers hoped he was when they drafted him multiple years ago in the third round, then I mean, that's absurd. Like he will be awesome for fantasy football. There's just, it's a complete unknown. Everything with Lloyd and Jacobs is just how much risk are you willing to tolerate?

Because we don't have true answers. What's funny is I saw, and this was a couple weeks ago, which is ironic, the timing. Obviously, we don't know what the teams know well ahead, well in advance of us. But a lot of the arguments I've made for Jordan Mason about going to the vertical wide zone and how it fits his play style. Some of that has happened with the Packers as well. They've been doing more of that wide zone look. And their beat reporters are like, I don't understand how Josh Jacobs fits into this because it's not his play style.

Whereas Marshawn Lloyd has been really excelling in camp with that. Caleb Johnson also fits that style. So I do think the offense fits Marshaun Lloyd. If his meat can stay intact. No, don't say tender. Here's what I don't think the Packers do. I don't think that they add Caleb Johnson moments before this news comes down if they know the outcome of the news. I don't think that they have enough. If they thought that Jacobs would just be off the list in a week.

I don't think you do that. Agreed. So this is what you do. You have to kind of break down the situation based on the evidence you have and see where it goes. And that's where we're at with Jacobs and Lloyd and Chris Brooks and Caleb. And ultimately, I think that there are some that believe, as I am one of them, that this team was going to be a little bit more balanced, use their wide receiver core that is now healthy. And Jordan Love, to me, is sneaky. I mean, there are just...

He's a very, very, very good player. But if you run the ball and you're number one in that and you're 28th in passing, you can't get the volume you need from Jordan Love. If they're more balanced, there's the potential for a big season from him. The touchdowns as well. My big issue with Jordan Love for fantasy football since he doesn't run is he's got to throw for 35 touchdowns. He can, but he doesn't because Josh Jacobs is so good around the goal line. I actually changed some of these up to where I bump Tucker Kraft.

Matthew Golden and Christian Watson up in the touchdown department because I think he I think it makes sense like when you get in the red zone you're going to be throwing more than running without Josh Jacob so it's good for love and good for some of those receiving options well and just a reminder three years ago Jordan Love was the quarterback five for fantasy football at just under 19 points per game then Josh Jacobs shows up for the past two years and

It goes way down. And part of Jordan Love's success in that season where he was the QB5 for rushing touchdowns. Like this was a part of what they did. Yeah, he had a period of time that he played where he was coming off of an injury.

where you should not extrapolate anything in his rushing totals for that season because he wasn't able to run. They weren't allowing him to run. He's an athletic guy. He is. And I should add if it needs to be stated because I saw somebody dropped Marshawn Lloyd to sign Caleb Johnson. Don't do that. No. Please understand that Marsha and Lloyd is far and away the back to roster there. And then Chris Brooks is the next man up. Caleb is depth. It doesn't mean he won't have an opportunity. I think it'll be Brooks and Caleb behind Lloyd. Lloyd gets hurt.

That's the situation. Did you want to add? Yeah. Last thing, because I think this is what people are really wanting to know, is we talk about the round, but I want to give some names to Marshaun Lloyd and ask, are you drafting this person or Marshaun Lloyd? Yeah. Go on. Are you drafting Ramandre Stevenson or Marshawn Lloyd? Remandre. Remandre. Are you drafting Tony Pollard or Marshawn Lloyd? Are you drafting Jedarian?

Price. Price. That's like right where he is for me. That's close. I think they're back to back in my rankings. And that's really close. I probably go Lloyd based on what I think's going to happen. But that's your risk aversion. If you want to be safe with like production but not that level of upside, go toting. Yeah. It's the Green Bay Packers running back. The Green Bay Packers starting running back can be a top 12 player if they get the work. It's funny because every single team in that division, that's the truth.

The only problem. The Vikings, the lions, the bears, and the Packers. It's a great division. That division is outrageous. The biggest problem for Marshawn Lloyd is what if he gets the work? If you give him the work, can he hold up? All right, we got to take a break and we'll get into some more news. Some of it good, some of it unfortunate, as we seem to get this time of year.