Top 10 WR Rankings + Jason Takes a Dive - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/11

I'm in. And so it's going to beg a few questions from you. But we're going to play a game called, oh, no. Called Tyreek Hill or Stefan Diggs. Oh, I like it already. Oh, no. Oh, no. Now, this is numbers from the 2018 and 2019 seasons. Okay. And just to throw it out there, missed games. Who led the way between those two seasons and missed games.

We'll start with that way. Tyree Kill missed two games in that stretch. I think it's Diggs. Two years ago. I mean, Diggs always misses games. He was pretty good this year. It's actually Tyreek. Tyreeks missed four, Diggs has missed two. But I wanted you to know that when I give all these other stats. Let's start with touchdowns. Touchdowns. Tyreek Hill or Stefan Diggs over the last two seasons, 2018 and 2019. Oh, my goodness. Also, having never been on this side of these games, this is wonderful. Watching your faces.

Because you don't know whether I'm trying to get you or not. Curses. Tyreek Hill was phenomenal two years ago. Double digit touches. I'm going to go Tyreek. I'm going to go Tyreek. You are both correct. Tyreek Hill, 19 touchdowns over the last two years. But Stefan Diggs, okay? 19 to 15. All right. 100 yard games. Tyreek Hill or Stefan Dix? 100 yard games over the last two years. Man.

That's tough. I'll go, I'll take digs there. I'm going to go digs as well because he's so hot and cold. Oh, just the Tyreek was hurt. You are correct. Stefan Diggs, nine hundred yards games. These games are easy. I don't know what you guys are talking about. 800 yard games for Tyreeks, so nine to eight. Diggs wins. How about that? Barely. Let's go this way. Top 36 weeks. So this is a pretty.

Important statistic. Top 36 weeks. Dropping into 36, all right. Top 36 weeks over the last two years. This is a gotcha. So I got to go Diggs. Yeah, I lean Diggs. Because I think everybody listening, I mean, the fact that where you're drafting Hill and where you're drafting Diggs says, well, of course, that has to be Tyreek Hill. They are tied. Oh, I told you it was a gotcha. 17 top 36 weeks from each player. Last one, top six weeks.

So finishing inside the top six. Tyreek. Oh, man. When Diggs goes hot. When Diggs goes hot, he goes, I would have to go Tyreek. It would be disingenuous to actually say Diggs. It is Tyreek. Okay. But just to point it out, it's eight to seven on top six weeks over that two-year span. And the only reason I'm bringing this up is not to necessarily, oh boy. But Andy, I'm confused. Are you saying that Diggs is better?

than he's being drafted or the Tyree kill is worse than he's being drafted. I'm going to give you one more to answer that question, voice of public opinion. Thank you. Bust games over the last two years. So these are games where they actually go out and hurt your fantasy team. So I had my stat ready was that.

Over the last two years, Tyreek Hill has busted in 40% of his games. Now, there was a long run this year when he came back from his injury, and the defense was great for Kansas City. So I'm going to use my stat to my advantage, and I'm going to guess Tyreek. I agree with Mike. It's actually Sifondi. Oh, you got me.

But 13 to 11, very close in unbussed games. Everybody views Stefan Diggs through the lens of you don't know what you're going to get. Yet with these, over the last two years, Tyreek is not far off, yet is drafted ridiculously different. So all that to say, Tyreek is, you're not getting Michael Thomas, you're not getting Devante Adams, you're not getting Julio Jones.

With Tyree Kill, you are getting a player that is going to potentially win you a week outright because he goes absolutely crazy, but he can disappear. You are not getting the engine to the car, but you're getting the Noss. There you go. Press that button. I want it. Yes. I want Tyree Kill on my lineup, but he can't, even though you project him here, it's like also the Amari Cooper syndrome where, yeah, at the end of the year.

Total points, yeah, he's a wide receiver one. But if you were saying, wow, this is my guy, this is my wide receiver one, you know, they can't cost you that many weeks. So while he's, he's number six for me, he's number six for Andy.

I can't imagine taking him over Julio Jones. I can't imagine taking him over Devonty Adams. Which Jason has him ranked over Julio Jones. Is that still accurate? So, well, the ranking, like you said, it's at the end of the year. Who has more fantasy points? Tyree Kill, I think, has a higher ceiling because of the touchdowns. But this is why when you look at tiers and you look at the rankings and the blurbs and the UDK and you see the risk rating and all of those things, you say, well, no, I'm going to draft Julio ahead of Tyreek because

That fits my team better. I do want to give a little bit of context or at least ask the question about specificity because it's been very negative on Tyree Kill. Last year, once, you know, that midway point, the Kansas City Chiefs defense got way better. Pat Mahomes was injured for a stretch of those games. He was hobbled. It wasn't the same offense. During that stretch from there to the end of the year, Tyree Kill was the wide receiver.

41. He was terrible. But if you look at the year prior and the first half of last year, Tyree Kill was worthy of being the number one wide receiver, the number two, three. He was phenomenal. So I think the question that fantasy owners have to at least have their own answer, since we don't know the future, was the second half of last year? Was that the new normal for the chiefs for Tyree Kill?

Or was that the injury of Tyree Kill mixed with the injury of Pat Mahomes, mixed with the hot streak of the defense? And that is the outlier. What would be each of one of your answers to that question? Well, I certainly don't think weeks 11 through 17 are prescriptive for Tyree Kill at all in any way, shape, or form. He is simply a less consistent player. Even when he was number one overall in fantasy, he was the 15th most consistent wide receiver. And he's also going to have to be your first pick.

If you want Tyree Kill, he's going to be your first pick in the draft, barring, you know, getting lucky and him sliding. Yeah, you can get him in the second round. His ADP is at 1-10 right now. So there's a chance that he slides to the second round. And if you're at the turn, he may be your second pick. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. But the likelihood is you're having to start your team with Tyree Kill. And I, you know, it's just something to be paying attention to. And it's all about your team identity. What?

Are you going to do with the other picks? Right. Are you going to layer in more players with a lot of upside but a lot of downside? Is it going to be more consistency? These are the type of nuanced decisions your fantasy team has to make. Chris Godwin comes in at number five. Chris Godwin got off to the absolutely insane start last season. He missed the last two games, but finished number two overall in fantasy football. He is the...

the example of the player that got the offseason hype and delivered in every way, shape, and form on it. Second most yards per game last year, 95 yards a game being drafted in the late second right now. Not really in association with that finish. People have doubts about whether Brady will be able to do what Winston did. Whether Godwin will be as... Whether Brady will need to do what Winston did. I think that's part of the issue is Winston's 30 interceptions meant...

Hey, we've got to keep chucking this ball. 24.2 fantasy points per game from weeks one through six. That defined his season. He was not as consistent over the last, basically from the midway point of the season on. And we've talked, one of the big principles that you notice each and every year. The beginning of the season has such a mental impact on fantasy players. So those first six weeks dominating. Number one, oh my gosh, look at this guy I got later in the draft. He's the best wide receiver in football.

The back half wasn't as consistent. It wasn't as good. He's still a great wide receiver. But I think, you know, we have them at seven. Jason and I, Mike, you got him at four. Yeah. And look, I haven't met four. That's where my projections landed. It's a scary ranking for a player who has a brand new quarterback. Now, I'm just, you know, projecting of trying to fit the puzzle pieces together of, you know, Chris Godwin is a top-notch route runner. People like the general public hasn't caught up.

on that yet. They like Chris Godwin. He broke out for fantasy. He was one of the best wide receivers last year. But you know how the general public is like Keenan Allen, great route runner. Stefan Diggs, elite route runner. Using reception in our ultimate draft kit, like Matt Harmon identified Chris Godwin as someone who's going to become an elite route runner. But when he was being drafted, like that in the NFL draft, he was one of his absolute favorite players. A lot of that.

as well because of contested catches, both of those things. Yeah, and that's where we are. Like, look at his, Chris Godwin's success running rounds, and especially, you know, he crushes the dig and the slant route. That's, that's called the Tom Brady special. I'm telling you, I'm going to, I'm going to come clean. I am starting to get a little bit more behind Tom Brady in general as a fantasy option and this offense and the belief that it will be.

a passing offense. It will be oriented towards letting Tom Brady flex his muscles with Grankowski, Godwin, and Evans, as often as he wants to. Brady didn't leave his six championship New England Patriots team to go and be a game manager somewhere else. He wants to prove a point that he's the goat. It's narrativey, but I'll, I look, man, I buy it. I buy it.

You're right. Tom Brady does not leave New England without like a back pocket full of spite. Yeah, he's got something to prove. I mean, that team with that defense, they were eight and no. They were on the way towards the Super Bowl. It's not like he couldn't have won with the Patriots. He wants to be an offensive machine. And the weapons are just so different this year for him. And the thing is, is nothing that I've said about Brady earlier in the offseason is not true. When it goes away.

it goes away quickly. At this age, it's gone. I mean, it happened to pay many. But there is the other side. If it's not gone, it could be great. So I think Godwin is probably, he's probably being drafted in the right spot, wide receiver six, seven. You should have a little bit of concern when you're drafting Chris Godwin. And if it seems like, now I'm feeling like maybe we're being a little negative about some of these players.

Understand, these are all our top 10 wide receivers. The only thing you can really point out are question marks that Mike differentiate them between somebody else. He's my number four receiver. Yeah, you hate him. All right. Number six, Kenny G. Oh, so smooth. Kenny Galdane. Oh, my. When it's Kenny's turn, you let it play a little longer. That's right. And let me tell you a little bit bab baboo about Kenny Galdade.

David Blow. Kenny Galladay, he already had the size. He already had the build, the athletic profile to be a superstar NFL wide receiver. And you kind of, you were seeing those flashes in his first few years. And again, I'm going to refer to the route running. He had a major improvement in his reception scores of he is now turning from a guy who could rely.

on just his natural athletic ability and size to someone who is becoming a polished route runner. And that, look, if he keeps taking those steps, Kenny Gawaday will be elite. Daryl Bevel, the O.C, he just recently had a interview. And look, narrative, fine. But this is what we got to go off of. Bevel said, I want Kenny Gawaday to be mentioned with DeAndre Hopkins.

with Michael Thomas. That's what he wants. And he's the one who will help turn Kenny Gallaudet into that. But I mean, of course he does. Is there is there any, is there any offensive coordinator in the league that doesn't want his wide receiver one to be mentioned with the greatest wide receiver one? They don't, they don't say it because sometimes it's stupid to say that with a straight face for many players. In his situation, Goladay is interesting because he was one of only three players with double digit touchdowns last year. He also doesn't do it on the, you know, it's a hundred and.

16 targets, the year before 119 targets, did it with different quarterback play. They started to trust Stafford to be the driver of the offense last year. Kenny Gallaudet, I have them up at five. Oh, Mike, you do too. Yeah, look, I love Kenny Gallaudet, man. I think he belongs in that group, and his draft position's interesting because if you ended up, what, with the first pick in the draft.