QB Rankings Part Two + Cam Newton Hype, Best Ball Tips - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/14

Another negative mark for Aaron Rogers this offseason, but he is still Aaron Rogers. He can still go out and give you that weak winning performance, just not coming as often. Yeah, I haven't met 16. I hate it. I hate that he is that low in my rankings. Is there a part of you that believes Rogers could be a top five guy this year? Yes, it's still inside me, and I don't know if that's just the goodwill.

that Aaron Rogers has built up of so many years of being a dominant fantasy quarterback. I mean, you have the fact that he's, since 2011, he hasn't finished outside of the top 10 when he's healthy and actually playing. Including last year. Yeah, he was still number 10. He gave you four performances inside the top three, which, I mean, that's weak winning stuff. And you don't have to draft him where you normally would.

As a fantasy owner, if my opponent has Aaron Rogers, even though he's going late in dress, I'm my butt still a little clinched that week. I'm still pretty worried about what's going to happen. Well, you know that he can go nuclear, have a four touchdown game. You know, he still had three weeks, four weeks last year where he was a top three quarterback. A great man once said that, Jason. And he didn't have Devante Adams for part of the year.

Yeah, amazingly, some of his best performances were without him. Yeah, it was weird. That is weird. Yeah, I'm not super in on Aaron Rogers. I have taken him when he falls into the double-digit rounds because you do have that upside. But I don't think you're going to have consistency. What we saw last year with LaFleur, I believe is what's going to happen going forward. They invested in A.J. Dylan.

They care much more about the running game and the defense than what we're used to seeing with Aaron Rogers. You think, oh, I've got Aaron Rogers. He's about to get, you know, the Russell Wilson treatment here of like, no, we'll let you help us win a game when the game is on the line. But in the meantime, we want to control, you know, the narrative of the game script with defense and running the ball. I have a little mini game. A mini game. Yeah, it's not, it's not as big as the other ones. But this little mini game.

is called Aaron Rogers or Jared Goff. Okay. The last... Seems very similar to the other games. Yes. But it's many. Well, there's only a few here. It's one question. But I was thinking about this. Yes, it's one question. Who finished higher last year? Over the last three years. So that's including, you know, Aaron Rogers, you know, he had one down year. Obviously he missed some games, but this is all per game. His completion percentage, who's higher? Goff or Aaron Rogers. Rogers.

It's golf. Jared Goff, those first two years with McVeigh, was a very high in completion percentage. Yards per game. Goff or Rodgers? That is correct. It's golf. Okay. Yeah. Touchdowns per game. Goff. Really? You think golf? I don't know. I'm just answering golf, bro. Rogers. But it's goff. Okay.

He shames you. You think it was Goff, you dummy? Well, it was. You were right. Ah, I get you no matter what you say. All right. But obviously, Goff throws a lot more passes. Aaron Rogers has always been Mr. Efficiency. Yes. Higher touchdowns. This feels like a regular size game. Yeah. Higher touchdown percentage per pass. So who throws a higher percentage of his passes for touchdowns? I'm not playing this game beyond the mini portion. Sure. Who is?

It's Goff. I'm just saying, you know, look, Aaron Rogers still... Yeah, that's why he's ranked where he's ranked. I mean, he's... But, I mean, Aaron Rogers still allows a little bit more on the ground. Goff doesn't do much rushing the ball. So you have a little bit of a baseline there. But my point is, I think we're looking at the previous Aaron Rogers and saying he can get back. But I... It's been a while. It's been a while. It's been a while. Are you happy with him as you're locked and loaded?

quarterback. I mean, that's the question is, are you drafting him to stream other quarterbacks? Are you drafting him to play him every week? I mean, he was much, much more valuable against bottom 16 defenses. It was a huge gap. 9.3 fantasy points different between facing a top 16 defense and a bottom 16 defense. Yeah, he beat up on bad defenses, but looking at the schedule, Minnesota, Detroit, Saints, Falcons. Yeah, light them up to start the year. You have three plus matchups.

with Aaron Rogers out of the first four games. So yes, and he's going as the quarterback 10 in ADP. I imagine he's going to be all over the place when you're in your home leagues because you'll have the people who are still completely in on Aaron Rogers and then you'll have the contrarian leagues that are completely off of Aaron Rogers. I'm interested. I'm interested to draft Aaron Rogers if you're in a league where everyone is a late round.

subscribes to the late round theory. And you can grab Rogers late. I'm still interested to try it out for the first few games. He does have a really good schedule. Not just, I mean, he's got the buy in week five, but even after that he's got some good matchups. The first half of the year is pretty solid. Yeah. One of the things that's interesting is yesterday on the series XM show, we talked about stack options. We talked about what wide receiver quarterback combos are you most likely to end up with, willing to draft?

If you have Devante Adams, if you're in that spot where Devante Adams falls to you, you didn't get to choose to draft his quarterback that's going to supply him all of those massive wide receiver numbers in the 10th round. Yeah. If I had Adams, I would be drafting Rogers for that stack. So my stack was this quarterback right here. Matt Ryan coming in at number 13. Matt Ryan is kind of, I don't feel like we haven't talked about him almost at all.

And if I end up with Julio Jones in the top of the second round, I'm looking at Matt Ryan late in drafts as well. His start to last season was unbelievable. The first six games, he was on a 5,300-yard pace and something like 40 touchdown. So he has that in him. You know, we've seen it year over a year.

2016, he was the number two overall quarterback. 2018, he was the number two overall quarterback. Last year, he was still in the top 12. He's finished at number 11. And he had a bad offensive line and the team struggled. But look, Julio Jones and Calvin Ridley. We expect big things from them. It's coming as a result of Matt Ryan finding a way to get them to football. He did have an ankle injury. I don't remember that Matt Ryan got hurt last year. That's why Matt Schaub had a top 40 weeks. Yeah, the top.

top 12 week, top 40? That's not very good. Oh, yeah. Shop has a top 40 week almost every week. He got hurt and he did miss a game and then you saw a pretty noticeable downtick in his production. I'm not going to blame it all on the ankle because Matt Ryan does these things from time to time. But Matt Ryan has, I mean, he's had this cycle now where he keeps getting new offensive coordinators and he's

Not great the first year. Even with Kyle Shanahan, he was not great the first year that Kyle Shanahan was there. And then he burned everything to the ground the second year. Kyle Shanahan leaves. You have a new OC. He's bad. Then he's great again the next year. Now we have, and now we're back. We're back in that cycle where Matt Ryan still through the fifth most passing yards in the league. He's going to throw a ton of yards. It's up to those touchdowns and interceptions. And.

The history of Matt Ryan, not saying, I'm not playing the game of, well, he was bad last year. So that means he's going to be good. No, we have an actual reason for that. And it's a change of system. Maybe Matt Ryan's just not, he can't adapt to the change that quickly. Because it's the difference between Matt Ryan last year, finishing where he did, which was, you know.

on QB 11. So it was... In 15 games. Yeah, it's fine for fantasy. But the difference between that QB11 and him being a weekly starter as a top seven guy, it's just two to three interceptions and two to three touchdowns. If you were able to flip those numbers, then Matt Ryan is great for fantasy purposes. And he can easily do that. You have to pay the QB8 though. So Jason, are you willing to pay up a QB8 price for Matt Ryan in hopes that he...

can change those numbers? No, I'm probably not. And I do like Matt Ryan this year. Last year I was a little bit more down on him. I would be very happy with Matt Ryan, but I'm not going to take him as the eighth quarterback off the board. That's just higher than I think. I've seen him going in a lot of real drafts I've been in. If he falls to value, gets near those double-digit rounds, I'd be happy with him. He does have a very difficult schedule. On the course of the season, Warren Sharp has him projected for the toughest...

schedule against opposing defenses, specifically passing defenses. So that's something at least to monitor. But everything else you're saying is true. We know he's going to throw for 4,000 plus yards. He's going to demolish that. We know he's got weapons that are safe and secure. I think he's got an upgraded hopefully, but I believe it is still an upgraded running back from Devon to Freeman to throw the ball to. So I'm happy with Matt Ryan, but I'm not reaching for Matt Ryan. 14. Shocker here. Probably going to have some debate.

Daniel Jones ends up our consensus 14. Mike is the reason why. He's got him up at 12. I know he talked about some breakout opportunities. We also talked about the atrocious early schedule for Daniel Jones, Pittsburgh, Chicago, San Francisco, the Rams. I look at Daniel Jones and I think I see him through a similar lens to Gardner Minshu. Mike is apparently a big fan of these second year breakout opportunities.

I wasn't as impressed with Daniel Jones as I think Mike was. And I don't think that this year is going to be an easy road for him. So I have him at 18. Mike's got him at 12. Jason Moore in the middle. How do you see this season playing out for Daniel Jones? Interesting pick last year by Dave Gettleman. It was. But, you know, he certainly flashed and did some things that, you know, rookie quarterback traditionally haven't been able to do, but more of them are doing more recently.

Yeah, more of them are, but he still did things that people have not done. Over the last 10 years, rookie quarterbacks that have played at least 10 games and averaged over 250 passing yards. That list is Andrew Luck, Baker, Cam, James Winston, and now Daniel Jones. Like, that's not a big list for over the last 10 years. He gives you enough on the ground. He was on a pace for 365 rushing yards. That's not like incredible, but that's that Alex Smith, you know.

removes a mistake or two because he gives you 25 to 35 yards on the ground. We have 18 rookie quarterbacks who have thrown more than 20 touchdowns. Daniel Jones is fourth on that list. I saw ceiling games. Yes, he had a bit of a fumbling problem. The interceptions weren't too bad, but the fumble. I get the chance. I get it. But fumbles to me can be corrected for quarterbacks. It's easier to correct the fumbling problem.

than it is to correct an interception problem, in my opinion. He's surrounded by elite speed, you know, with Slayton and Shepard and Evan Ingram, who is back. Sequin. Yeah, and that's not even including Sequin, Berkeley. So I believe that Daniel Jones has the ability and the potential. It's a bit sketchier to call him the breakout, especially with that early season schedule. It could look really bad through four games.

But I do believe that Daniel Jones has the ability and opportunity to break out this year. And that's the right word. And I'm not a believer. Mike is a believer. I am not a believer. He had four outstanding games as a rookie. Detroit, the Jets, the Redskins. Washington football team. Yes. The Washington football team, the Jets, Detroit, and the Buccaneers early in the season when their defense was bad. And so does he have the –

Does he have the skill set and the weapons to go off? Yes. But outside of those games, there wasn't another top half. I mean, he wasn't, you know, in the top 15 the whole season. And he was a rookie and that's fine. But when I look at the talent, I don't, I'm not confident that I can project.

a leap forward. He's got a new coordinator, a new system, shortened offseason, tough opening schedule. He won't be on any of my teams. Yeah, I was going to say, like, to the point about, like, accomplishing certain metrics as a rookie, that's just a tough one for me fundamentally because, one, a lot of rookies don't get the whole season. I'm of the impression that if you're a top pick, top three-round rookie quarterback, and you get to start.

16 games, you're probably going to do things that most rookie quarterbacks didn't do over the last 20 years. Because today's NFL with the scoring, with the protection of the quarterback, with all of the weapons and the schemes, I think more quarterbacks will do that. So I don't look at that as my only benchmark for him. Not saying you do. I know that he had big games. If you started him in week 8, 10, or 16, you won. Bravo, because I don't know how you had the guts to do it.