QB Rankings Part Two + Cam Newton Hype, Best Ball Tips - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/14

Cam Newton has been, you know, my favorite later round guy for a bit. Yeah, you've taken him a few times in our mock drafts. And I'm feeling more optimistic about his opportunity and delivering fantasy value. I mean, he's always done it. We still don't know what the running totals will be for Cam. And I think it's a fair, like caution for fantasy owners to have. Sounds like they have some running back problems that could be solved by a healthy Cam Newton. Yeah.

Yeah, so it'll be interesting in New England. All right, let's jump back into the main event. Quarterbacks. The important quarterbacks, deep voice announcer guy, because these are, look, we talked about the best quarterbacks last episode, and some of them are being drafted late, but most of them.

are being drafted early. Now that's one through 10. Yes, the top 10 list. It's one through 10. But yeah, today we're talking about the back half of the top 20 quarterbacks. And these are the guys that you're probably going to draft in your league. If you adhere to the late round quarterback. You say it's probably who we're going to draft. Right. Certainly, you know, I like drafting my quarterback. Come along for the ride.

You know, usually I'm in the double-digit rounds. And, you know, you've got to find someone. Stafford could be there from the top 10 episode for sure. Probably will be. Yeah. But a lot of these players, especially the first one we're kicking off with, are still going later in some drafts and I think have high upside. And why is this so important? Well, there were 40 different top 12 quarterbacks last season. But Andy. Yes, yes. But there's only 32 NFL games. I know. Confounding, isn't it?

40 top 12 quarterbacks. We're talking about names like A.J. McCarran, Matt Scha, Matt Moore, Jeff Driscoll. But Andy, that's an outlier season. That's the only time that's happened. You're right, voice of public opinion, except for in 2015, there were 40, 2016, there were 40, 2017, there were 43, 2018, there were 41. I think I was wrong. The humble voice of public opinion, you've been put in your place. I've got to go.

It's not like a Muppet baby. I feel like I started to sound like, what's the poop guy from Mr. Hanks? Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Oh, thank you, Mike. You're welcome. Also, never again. No, five consecutive years with 40 or more top 12 quarterbacks. Now, it's not going to be easy to predict the Matt Moore, Jeff Driscoll, climbing into the top 12 weeks. What it means is that there are, that's a huge number.

Which means that on a weekly basis, and if you look at matchups, if you look at opportunity to move quarterbacks into your starting lineup, it's very, very possible to stream the position. And year after year after year, we do a stream where we each pick a quarterback to stream every week, and we've done it for years. And on average, that quarterback has finished as the quarterback six. So you can use that early draft capital on positions that you start more of.

and you can look towards the back of the draft for quarterbacks that, you know, in this case, when you're looking at your draft, you're probably, you're glancing at that early season schedule when you make a decision about a streaming quarterback, right? For sure. I mean, there are guys, you know, we've brought up Daniel Jones, a guy that could have a breakout year this year. Some people really believe in him, but his early season schedule says he's off my draft board. Like, I'm not, I don't want to start him those first couple weeks because of his schedule.

And I, whoever I'm drafting, sure you hope. You hope all of a sudden he has this breakout Lamar Jackson year and you start him the entirety of the year. But you assume when you draft these late round quarterbacks, they're going to start him for a couple weeks, be watching the waiver wire and pivot to a great matchup and be streaming the position. Top drafted quarterbacks last year, very disappointing. Nine of the first 10 quarterbacks selected in the 2019, in 2019 drafts finish lower than where they were drafted. So that's all the.

Players that even, you know, yesterday we're talking about the top 10 and the guarantees, nine out of 10, you know, finish lower. So, you know, what's wild about quarterbacks is they are very difficult to project on a season long scope. But weekly, it's much easier when you have data on the matchups. And that's why guys like, like Jeff Driscoll, you go, oh, look, I get it. Maybe he's, maybe he stinks.

I don't care because he's playing against a defense that stinks. Yeah, and this sounds really dumb to say out loud. But all of these teams, they play four quarters and they play the same amount of snaps. And if you're a bad team, you still play four quarters. And you still have the opportunity to have X amount of possessions in the NFL. And that means any quarterback can come. Even, you know, we're talking about Tyrod Taylor and the Chargers and their offense being a question mark. Well, you still are going to have opportunities.

And in today's NFL, look, every single year, 40 guys put up top 12 weeks. Tom Brady comes in at number 11. Tom Brady of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Of course. And his current average draft position a little bit higher than where we have him, the quarterback nine in the eighth round. Where you have them. Where you guys have them. Oh, I see. I see because you have them at nine. That's right. And you'd like to brag about that. I believe in Tom Brady.

this year. I think that's right. I got him right on ADP. We don't, you want to fight about it? I mean, I'm excited. Nine, too. For Tom Brady's. Nine's my sweet spot outlook. And I feel like I am higher in my heart than nine. And my point is this. We've talked about it a little bit. I don't remember which shows at this point. They all run together. But Tom Brady did not leave the New England Patriots to be a game manager.

for a good defense with, you know, just to slightly improve his weapons. He went to Tampa Bay to Bruce Ariens to one of, if not his best receiving core of all time, to a system that wants to air the ball out. And he's, he wants to flex. He wants to go there and show, I'm Tom Brady. I'm the best quarterback in the league. I want it now. I want it now. That's what we're going to see. That's what I believe. Well, and, and I, and I, I've said this on the show.

you're not going to get a medium season from Tom Brady if he still has it. Now, narrative street of, hey, I'm Tom Brady. I want to come and flex. It worked for Peyton Manning in Denver for a year, 55 touchdowns. It was nice. It also didn't work. Peyton Manning, I'm going to break some news to you. He didn't want to be a game manager the year that they won the Super Bowl. Right. He became one because his body said, you're a game manager now. So it's just to say that the risk with Tom Brady.

The age is built into that risk. I mean, and you're not paying a high price for him. You're shaking your head. How crazy is it that Manning won the Super Bowl when he was so bad? He led the league and interstate. If he was a game manager, he was a terrible game manager throwing picks, left, right, and center. And he won the Super Bowl that year. Thanks, defense. It just tells me that I could have done it. I could have done it. B-League flag football champ. Quarterback. My concern with Tom Brady is.

The Bruce Aryan system, while it rains fantasy points down upon all of us, the first year that quarterbacks are in the system, they end up turning the ball over a lot. Now, I know we're, I'm comparing some guys to Tom Brady, which is a difficult thing to do of the, probably the greatest quarterback of all time, but Andrew Luck, it was his rookie year, but Andrew Luck, that's the most interceptions that he threw. Carson Palmer.

His first year with Bruce Ariens, the most interceptions he'd ever thrown. James Winston last year with his first year with Bruce Ariens, he threw a whole bunch of picks too. So it's not just one quarterback who's coming in in the first year for Bruce Ariens and struggling a bit. Do you think that he's bringing?

Tom Brady along in his system as much as Brady is ringing his system along the way they did in Denver. Because other than, unlike James Winston, who needed to follow as much as possible, Brady needs to do what he's comfortable doing at the same time. I think there's a little bit of meeting in the middle there, but from the reports out of camp, it's talking about how well Brady has been picking up this system. It really does seem like it's going to be Bruce Aryan system, but it's still Tom Brady's mind and decisions on the field. Now, to your point, Mike, I have Tom Brady with 14 interceptions.

which is, you know, that's like double what Tom Brady is used to throwing. So I do think he'll turn the ball over a little bit more in this system, but he's going to throw the ball a lot. He's going to throw to great weapons. Mike Evans, you know, Chris Goblin. He's got gronk. He's got O.J. Howard. I, you know, there's upside here. Yes, there is. I don't think that quarterback nine is where Tom Brady can really end up. I mean, I think he can be a top five guy with these weapons.

You know, we talk about let Russ cook. You wonder how long Brady's been restrained by the weapons and the offensive scheme with Bill Belichick because it just worked, right? The defense and, you know, he didn't have weapons like Chris Godwin, like Mike Evans in New England. Let Tom cook. The last thing I'll say on Tom Brady. I think you're just getting a salad. That's true. Yeah, that's true. The plant man. Look what I got for you. Some roots. Yeah. The last thing I will say is at, at.

Quarterback 9. You know, I have them there. I think he can beat that. But we have brought up the risk of the age and the changing team. There is, you know, it's not a safe pick. I don't look at this as a safe pick. It's an exciting pick. Sure. Well, let's talk about the schedule, though. I was going to say New Orleans to start the year. It's going to be fun. You start on the road playing against the Saints. Then you get a nice matchup against the Carolina Panthers, but then you get Denver.

And the Chargers. It doesn't bother me. That's not a big worry to me either. I mean, New Orleans is going to score a lot of points. It's probably going to be a high scoring game. Carolina, week two. I'm not worried about these matchups. All right. Aaron Rogers, yes, Aaron Rogers comes in at number 12. And we'll talk about Aaron Rogers. Right now? In a moment. Ah, yes. Before we get into Aaron Rodgers, want to think today's sponsor, Quip.

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when it comes to his fantasy value over the last few years. It's the quarterback 10 off the board right now. He's ranked lower on our consensus quarterback rankings. He's 12. I've got him at 12. Jason at 14, Mike at 16. It's not been a predictable ride with Aaron Rogers. You get the extra... Is it a chip on his shoulder? Is it a sign to where the door is? I don't know. Jordan Love being drafted was...