Fantasy Football Podcast 2017 - More Free Agent Madness, Mailbag

of Aaron Rogers. Every single season that he's been there, who has been his tight end one, and where have they finished for fantasy football? Break it down, brother. He's had Jermichael Finley before five of Aaron Rogers seasons. Jermichael Finley was the number one tight end for the team for fantasy purposes. Five?

Yeah, I know. I was shocked at that too. The reason why we're shocked is because every year he was hyped. I remember the Jamaica Finley high. Oh, yeah, over and over. Well, this is the year. Here's your Michael Finley's finishes, okay? He was Eric Ebron before it was cool. He finished 37th, 37th, which was their number one tied in that year. That's really good. Solid. Like the fantasy tight in 37? Yes, fantasy tight in 37. 19, which is also terrible. Terrible.

That's Fedorowitz level. In 2011, he was the number five tied in. And that's where all the hype came from. So he had a number five tied in once in 2011 the year before that, 37, 1321. And coming forward with the, you know, tied in 26, tight in 36 last year. And Richard Rogers was tied in nine. So in his entire career, twice. Off of one play. Yeah, exactly. Twice has he had.

even a tight-in one. And usually, I mean, it's just not Aaron Rogers game plan. It's not the Packers game plan. And that's not to say that Martell's Bennett can't be a tight-in one. He's great. He's a good player. He'll have tied-in one weeks. Yeah. But he already had the example. He already played for Tom Brady. Right. Without Grunkowski. And he wasn't consistent enough as a pass kit. Now, you know, what can he do for Green Bay? He makes him a better team. I think he's a better tight-in than Jared Cook.

So they also added Lance Kendricks. They could play two tight-in sets now. So it'll be interesting. By the way, with the Lance Kendrick signing, pay attention to Tyler Higby in St. Louis. I think all three of us love Higby. Yeah, we do. But last year for Green Bay, 103 targets went to the tight-in position. That has Green Bay at 23rd for percentages of targets to the tight end, 16.6%.

of targets went to the tight end. And so if you're wondering, like, what's a strong team? Well, let's see, Tennessee was 10th and they were at just under 25%. So you're talking a major discrepancy of Aaron Rogers just doesn't consistently throw the ball to the tight end. I want to get into the mailbag and answer some listener questions. It's important that we do that on today's show. I'm going to go through some quick hitting kind of.

Other free agent news that's maybe not as prolific. Cardinals re-signed Andre Ellington to a one-year deal. The Buccaneers are giving Jequiz Rogers a two-year deal. So they got their starting running back. Yes, you said that before. That's true. Beware of Tampa in the draft for running back. Sure. Robert Turbens back in Indianapolis. Also, you know, he was the ultimate vulture on the goal line of Frank Gore. Two-year deal for $4.1 million. That's not chump change, so he'll be utilized.

Right now, that's another team that I'm looking at to strengthen their running back core in the draft. Terrence Williams, re-signed four-year deal, 17 million? Yeah, it was. I didn't digest this earlier. Oh, it was interesting. I think that he took, I feel like he took less money than he could have gotten to stay in Dallas. Yeah, I agree. It's not good for his fantasy value. No, he's a fantasy vegetable at the wide receiver position. No, he's the best.

He's fantasy mold. I wouldn't go that. He's fantasy celery. It's a vegetable, I think, but it doesn't give you much nutritional value. Yeah, fair enough. That's a pretty good one. Put the ants on the log. Yeah. Well, then it becomes delicious. Well, he does. Every once in a touchdown. If you want to play with fire, Saints have agreed to terms with Ted Ginn.

Ted Ginn said he believes Drew Breeze can help extend his career. I bet he's right. He's correct. Run fast, Ted. He's been playing with Cam Newton. Yeah, I was saying he's going from a sub 60% completion passer to Drew Bree is one of the most accurate quarterbacks in the history of the league. Kendall Wright won your $4 million contract with the Bears who, by the way, paid Marcus Wheaton more money than Brandon Marshall. No one wants to go to Chicago. Nobody. If you had to rank.

The wide receivers in Chicago, starting today, this is what they go into the season with. Kevin White, Cam Meredith, Kindle Wright. With Kevin, with Cam and Kevin White, you could be okay. We still have no clue what Kevin White can be. I'm going to say this right now. I'm sorry if you're a Bears fan. I think you're the second or worst team in the league. It's going to be tough. It's going to be a rough year. Raiders have signed Corderole Patterson. I, you know, I love.

Cordell Patterson for what he brings to a team. To special teams. Gadgetry and special teams. I mean, that's all it is. But he's a great piece to add to Crabtree and Cooper and that offense. I mean, I like it. Has Seth Roberts resigned? Yeah, I believe he's good to go. Oh, really? So I was, I mean, that's probably one of the most hidden, uh, free agents that I wanted out of there. So, so bad. 20 reds on targets. Andy, you did, uh,

gloss over the Mike Wallace will be back with the Baltimore Raven. And we will get into that, I think extensively on our free agent winners and losers. But he is back with the Ravens. He's a winner. And he's a winner. Jason, this next news is really. This is the greatest free agent signing of the offseason. The Arizona Cardinals have signed former 49ers kicker Phil Dawson, who is a great kicker.

And they have gotten rid of Chandler Cantero, who is the worst. He was actually in the gold rush. And in proof that the Jets are trying to lose, the Jets have signed Chandler Katanzaro. Are you still ranking him 32nd every week? You know, I think I'll let him be where he actually deserves, which will be more like 28. Okay. So he's not an auto 30 second. Yeah. Jets, he's going to cost you a game.

Or three. Or three. It's time to dive into the listener mailbag. Mailbag. Manual bag. All right. If you have a question you want to submit to the show, you can go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. Click the questions button. You can also dial our voicemail hotline, 302-464. TFFB. Leave us a voicemail question. We try to get into as many of these as we can. Obviously, we get a lot of questions submitted through.

We try to answer them, help your team out, help you get that Foot Clan title. The first question is so perfect. And we had no clue this news was going to break today. But Ryan Porter in Texas says, where should I take C.J. Procise in my dynasty league and my half point per reception league. I'm interested to hear your answer, Mike, because I want to know if it's different for both of those situations in a regular half point league or a dynasty league. Oh, man. In a dynasty league.

So for context, in startup last year, when rookies were included in the startup draft, I believe I took Pro Cise in the seventh round, seventh or eighth round. I would probably look at him in the fifth or sixth round now. I would. He's young. He's great. You can have him. He's young. He's massively talented. I have stood by the fact that Thomas Rawls is not very good for years.

And now Seattle tends to, all their moves at least say that they agree with me. And I think that ProCyce is very, very good and will be very good for years to come. I agree that ProCyce is good. But I think most, you know, when you look at most rankings, ProCyce would be in a dynasty setup like in the 80s as far as total player. I think this move with Eddie Lacey coming.

hurts ProSise because his upside to actually say, I'm taking over the role, right? Like, that's the hope. When you draft ProCise and the fifth, you're not hoping that he is the third downback. You're hoping that his third downback excels and he takes over. He's not taking over the role. Despite all of Mike's opinions on C.J. Procise, the world agrees that he's not a three down back. We don't know that. I agree with Andy. And I am the world. We don't know that yet. And it's, I mean, that's.

It seems strange for someone who has hated Eddie Lacey for years that you feel like him coming in and he's just going to take the job. $5 million puts him as top 10 paid in the running back market. You're a top 10 paid running back. I think he's going to come in and take the job. Well, to be fair, the salary cap goes up every single year. So, of course, a new contract will put you in near the top. I mean, that's...

You're talking Tavon Austin is one of the highest paid wide receivers. Whenever you get a new contract, you're immediately one of the highest paid. CEO of Procise is, you know, he's two in the bush to me. Not one in the hand. Lace is one in the hand right now. Chris Miller in Whitehall, Pennsylvania. Hey, guys. New Foot Clan member here. Oh, welcome. Yeah, welcome to the Foot Clan. I'm in a PPR League, and I have the option to keep one of these players. Michael Thomas. Michael Thomas. Lamar Miller.

Adrian Peterson, Eddie Lacey, and Latavius Murray. Our keeper is in the third round. So what do you think here? What would you do there in a Keeper League, PPR Keeper League? It's between Lamar Miller and Michael Thomas for me, and because it's PPR, I will go Michael Thomas. That is my pick as well. I just want to throw this out there. Lamar Miller.

I tweeted this yesterday. I believe Lamar Miller is a great pickup right now in dynasty settings. I know he, people feel like he burned you last year because he didn't come in and capitalize on the hope. But he still wasn't bad. He was an RB2 and he didn't even play the last two weeks. He had enough production where he didn't completely crap your team. But he had Brock Osweiler. I was going to say that. And Brock Osweiler.

had the diaper on and the poop particles leaked over onto Miller. And Miller smelled bad because of Brock. You're stacking the box against Lamar Miller because you know Brock's not going to beat you. But if Tony Romo goes there, which I think right now is the expectation, you're, Lamar Miller's going to be productive. The offense is going to be fine. They've got DeAndre Hopkins on the outside. And you've got a guy who's going to be getting the ball and he's going to be out there three downs. And I think he once again.

Lamar Miller is one of my guys that I believe in. With Billy O'Brien saying we gave him too many carries, especially early? No, not really. He did break down late. If you look at what he said in that, he wasn't saying we gave him too many carries and we need to half them. He was talking about how like he's still going to get a lot of carries. Literally, this is what he said. He's still going to get a lot of volume, but they'll probably try to keep him away from the 30 touch mark, which is probably good. Right.

All right, dynasty trade question from Ross and Eureka, California. Eureka! I have the 101 pick in the upcoming dynasty draft. I know you do, Andy. That's true. I do as well. Looking to trade the pick along with either Matt Stafford or Kurt Cousins for Jordan Howard? Good deal? No. No. Yeah, probably not. No. I like Jordan Howard, but...

Hold on to that pick. We don't know. If a four net goes to the right spot, if four net goes to Tampa Bay or to Washington or, yeah, I mean, then I would rather there was a dynasty startup. I would probably take one of those guys ahead of Jordan Howard because, you know, the Bears situation. I mean, we got to wait until the NFL draft plays out. But I mean, to package. But I would certainly not. Yeah, I would not. All right. Let's get into one more here. Let's do a PPR Keeper question from Sam in Canada.

Oh, bonjour. PPR, keep five, no penalties. Wow. Gurley, where, OBJ, Keenan, Michael Thomas, Martavis, Bryant, Kevin White, Martellus Bennett. It's the first five. The first five. Girlie, where, OBJ, Keenan Allen, and Michael Thomas. Let's do one more. That one was too easy. Michael Thomas draft position question. Where do you draft them now with Brandon Cooks being traded?

This is from Dugan in Pearland, Texas. T.J. Hernandez has been tweeting out some pretty fiery stats considering Michael Thomas' current draft spot of he is about the 10th wide receiver off the board. And just historically speaking, there's almost no way that he's going to really return value.

at the 10. So I'm with TJ. I'm avoiding him that early. It's interesting. It's because of market share of target percentage. And so third round would be great, but he's going to go in the second round. So if you are taking Michael Thomas in the second round, you are creating this bed of expectations that's,